Demons & Invisible Forces

by Celtic 24 Replies latest jw friends

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  Thomas Poole

  I am so very very sorry for your experiences, especially those while you were young. I feel for all of you with any current episodes you are experiencing or any past memories of such.

  One of the things I know that demons pray upon is fear. Having fear, I have found, is most often caused by ones ignorance of the demons. Today people are just not taught about them as they should be.

  Having fear of them shows one's lack of knowledge in their relationship with Christ. If Christ is in you and you are in Christ, and your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and you are born again [saved], then these demons are all bluff.

  If Christians realize that demons exist just as much as God does, they can begin to talk about them and learn about what is really going on. This is for the good of the Christian. We do not have to remain ignorant.

  Consider that when the Bible says we have a [fight against against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places...] Ephesians 6.... this is talking about Satan's organization. This is why we told to put on the suit of armor. If your armor is in good shape you are ready for battle. So, one needs to know about their armor.

  Now what is important to know is that we are the side of the battle that is already won for us by Jesus Christ. This means because of our relationship with Christ we have power over the demons. This, of course, is by the use of Christ's name and the enabling of the Holy Spirit.

  Again, what is awful is that people are not taught about their position over the demons, having power over the demons. Please keep talking about them. The more you talk you learn. I feel there is much to deal with for people who have had your experiences.

  Good for all of you for discussing them. They are no big deal when you get used to their wiles and machanations and are able to recognize them through people, experiences, and so forth.

  As a Christian and believer in Jesus Christ, you are in a warfare, like it or not. If you have no reason to pay attention to them, that is good. However, it is important to recognize them.

  In Chirst,

  Thomas
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  unclebruce

  hi thomas,

  What is awful is that people are not taught about their position over the demons, having power over the demons. Please keep talking about them. The more you talk you learn. I feel there is much to deal with for people who have had your experiences. Good for all of you for discussing them. They are no big deal when you get used to their wiles and machanations.

  You make a very important point here thomas and i just want to emphasise it. The WBTS big boys in Brooklyn scare the living crap out of the Jehovah's Witness flock with stories of demons (often spread by thier Bishops ..oops .. I mean Circuit Overseers) I am convinced the sick bastards do this deliberately with control in mind. Otherwise why aren't JWs taught simple ways of defeating these dark little shits?

  I remmember being given a demonised black suit. Now an old witch trick says you can purify things by leaving them in the sun for a few hours but that's not the witness way, thank Jehovah. I came home and found mum burning it in the back yard. I had a talk that night .. good thing I had a stylish blue suit, tight fitting body shirt and matching seersucker tie as back up.

  unclebruce, no longer a victim of the fashion demons.
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  Thomas Poole

  Uncle Bruce,

  In my 31 years in the WT, I never heard or experienced reading or hearing all the stuff that you people talk about. I was never a child witnesses or tried to scare my own child with that demon stuff. I lived in the midwest USA. I guess the demon scare-stuff was not in my area like others.

  It probably is a sick-fun control thing for dumb adults to play. Like the affects of a scary movie perhaps.

  I just want everyone to know they are safe as Christians and the demons are likes toothless tigers if you ever encounter any. In the name of Jesus Christ, a Christian can stop a demon dead in his tracks. Spiritual warfare is helpful in many ways, from helping the innocent not to be afraid to delivering those in bondage from oppression, to releasing those in outright mouth foaming possession.

  When demons are chased off, and then they keep returning; then a person has a different ball games to deal with, which involves more knowledge and practice of sorts. However, it is still no big deal.

  Thank you,
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  Celtic

  Thomas

  I believe in Christ but I am not probaly you're average christian.

  Do you really have to use this as an opportunity to preach to us, if there is one thing we are all tired of here, it is ramming messages down peoples throats, it is neither the time nor the place? You say you were never a witness? No, then you are completely wrong, it was like nothing in comparison to a scary movie, it was real and made people into daft sods like uncle bruce, please take heed, if you were a JW I apologise.

  peace

  celtic
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  unclebruce

  g'day Thomas,

  I went to talk to you in chat but you saw me comming ;) I heard endless demon stories when i was a kid and grew up with nightmares of biblical proportions but never believed in mouth foaming demon possession, that only happened the other day when i met Celtic

  .... oops.
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  cornish

  My mother had a nervous breakdown because she heard in the talks and literature that if you have doubts the demons are getting to you and also that she could get the demons for talking to someone who was disfellowshiped.
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  alienone

  The irony is that demons don't want to blow-up your house, molest you or rape you. They simply want you to quit worshipping Jehovah. They want you out of the truth. So, far from leaving demons behind, those who have left are actually living under their spell and even promoting their agenda.

  It seems the master of deception has a Borg collective of his own.
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  ashitaka

  But, that's what we were told, alien....and we believed it. Told to us, from our 'spiritual advisors'. Seems that the elders are in more than one Borg collective themselves.

  ashi
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  Billygoat

  (((mega)))

  Ack! I am soo sorry to hear your mother fed all of that to you. My goodness. My parents fed me the same line, but obviously not quite as often as your mom. My parents used to tell me if I started feeling scared that singing a kingdom melody would scare the demons away. So I would always sing "We're Jehovah's Witnesses" whenever I was frightened. What's so sad is that there have been many times since then that I've been frightened for one reason or another and that song automatically comes into my head. Then I get even more freaked out! ACK! But I still cannot get over the habit of singing when I'm scared. Haha!

  Andi
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  ashitaka

  Hey Bils, me too! I sing "The HIIIIILLLSSS are alive, with the sound od mUUUUSSSIIICC," as if I was joking. I especially get freaked out in the shower. I don't know what it is; I never watch scary movies, or visit strange websites....yet I am always scared. I think it's from all of the demon-indoctrination. Several weird and supernatural things have happened to me, but I guess I just have to log it under "unexplainable". I don't believe in a world full of demons. What would life be worth living, then?

  I daren't tell my wife about my irrational fears....then I know she'd make me go to therapy.:)

  ashi