Is grace enough?

by Kphoto 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • RebelWife
    RebelWife

    I like the saying, "You can't outsin God," meaning the grace of God.

  • real one
    real one

    dep dog, who decides what works are, you or God?

  • real one
    real one

    If you have not done what Romans 10:8 says then you are not acceptable to God

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    real one

    dep dog, who decides what works are, you or God?

    Who desides who's saved men or God?

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Deputy,

    Thanks. And yes I can imagine it took the wind out of Mormons when you told them that. It seems that sometimes many can not grasp that salvation was simply given as a gift...kinda like a school assignment that is so supereasy one thinks they have done it wrong or missed something.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    I do not believe in once saved always saved.

    As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8),

    but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12),

    and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).

    Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13).

    God extends us His Grace. We can choose to reject it and lose our salvation.

    Soteriology is a fun subject. :-)

    Burn

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    isaacaustin

    kinda like a school assignment that is so supereasy one thinks they have done it wrong or missed something.

    I see it as the teacher having done the assignment for me a giving me the A+

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    The only logical rescue from a supernatural, undeserved damning of Adamic sin is a supernatural, undeserved saving by grace.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    burn

    but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12),

    1Co 1:8

    He shall also confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Php 2:12

    Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, cultivate your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13For it is God who works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure.

    So you think you are making your self blameless?

    Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13).

    You might be working, but, not like paul

    Rom 5:2

    Through Him we also have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice on the hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we glory in afflictions also, knowing that afflictions work out patience, 4 and patience works out experience, and experience works out hope. 5And hope does not make us ashamed, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit given to us.

    2Ti 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us. 13 If we do not believe Him, yetHe remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

    God extends us His Grace. We can choose to reject it and lose our salvation.

    I'd love to see what you do with Romans 9

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog
    undeserved damning of Adamic sin

    I'm sure if VoidEater was in the garden he would not have sinned.

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