A New Scholar has just entered the Building

by Honesty 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Our new Resident Scholar, Rev1212 informs the board that...

    The year 1914, which is the year that the Gentile Times (aka Appointed Times of the Nations) ended, was determined though a study of the Bible along with no doubt some holy spirit given to the brothers that were able to discern this information.

    There are quite a few scriptures involved in coming to the year 1914, one of them from Ezekiel about "Lifting off the crown and it will be no one's until he who has the legal right comes". So that is the starting point, which was 607 BC, when Jerusalem fell to Babylon. Then another significant scripture is from Daniel chapter 4 which showed the appointed times of the nations would be "seven times". Then to figure out what the seven times means we need to go to Revelation chapter 12 which notes that 1,260 days are 3-1/2 times. Making the 7 times equal to 2520 days. So doing the math, 607 BC plus 2,520 days comes to the year 1914.

    Should we ask for some proof or take him at his word?

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    So doing the math, 607 BC plus 2,520 days comes to the year 1914 .

    Please don't make me do math at this time of the morning!

    Actually, I think Rev1212's post is as much evidence as we're going to get. I doubt that he can find a scripture that supportsthis leap of scholarship:

    So that is the starting point, which was 607 BC, when Jerusalem fell to Babylon.
    The year 1914, which is the year that the Gentile Times (aka Appointed Times of the Nations) ended, was determined though a study of the Bible along with no doubt some holy spirit given to the brothers that were able to discern this information.

    Oh, no doubt there were some "spirits" involved!

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    I'm right there with you on this one, Bizzy Bee.

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    I can't make out what Rev1212's about yet. But in case he/she really is as naive and wide-eyed as he/she sounds, be gentle.

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    Oh, no doubt there were some "spirits" involved!

    holy sheepholy sheepholy sheepholy sheepholy sheep

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Thread?

    I'll be gentle.

    Promise.

    OM

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    Then to figure out what the seven times means we need to go to Revelation chapter 12 which notes that 1,260 days are 3-1/2 times. Making the 7 times equal to 2520 days. So doing the math, 607 BC plus 2,520 days comes to the year 1914 .

    So, by that logic, if Satan was cast out of heaven in 1914, he should be angry with and persecuting the "woman" for 1,260 years or until 3174!

    I used to gobble that stuff up like it was pig tails! Crazy.

    Sylvia

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    no doubt some holy spirit given to the brothers
    You would think the hs would let the brothers in on the simple little secret that there was no "0" year. This way they would not have to mysteriousy change the beginning date from 606 to 607.

  • BONEZZ
    BONEZZ

    I have Johanes Greber's home phone number...maybe we can do a conference call?

    JG: Hallo, this is Yo-han.

    US: Yes brother Greber can you give some support for the Watchtower's 1914 date?

    JG: Yah I can...Jus' last nite I vas talking to my Vee-gee board and it clearly spelled out nine-teen and four-teen.

    US: So you are solidly behind the Watchtower's assesment of that date?

    JG: Vy yes I am...and da udder brudders here at da old spiritist's home all agree vith me.

    So there you have it from one of the WTBS's foremost authorities!

    -BONEZZ

  • TD
    TD
    The year 1914, which is the year that the Gentile Times (aka Appointed Times of the Nations) ended, was determined though a study of the Bible along with no doubt some holy spirit given to the brothers that were able to discern this information.

    If this person actually said this, then they are sadly ignorant of the history of their own religion.

    The 1914 date was entirely the work of the Second Adventist Nelson Barbour. Barbour detailed his application of the 2520 years leading to 1914 in the September 1875 issue of Herald Of The Morning

    This was before he had ever met Russell

    Charles Taze Russell, by his own testimony (cf. Zion's Watch Tower June 15 1906) did not accept either the 1874 or the 1914 dates until he was convinced of them by Barbour in January of 1876

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