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Keep Yourselves In God's Love: Cover, Counsel and Discipline
by truthseeker 10 Replies latest jw friends
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truthseeker
pg 48 "that is why a book study group has an overseer"
Bit slow to change this!!!
Makes me wonder if this book study change was a snap decision by the GB.
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garybuss
"BE OBEDIENT TO THOSE WHO ARE TAKING THE LEAD"
(Keep Yourselves In God's Love, WTB&TS 2008 p. 48This begs the question: Are Jehovah's Witnesses following "men"?
The Watchtower June 15, 2007, pages 26-30
17 "This includes our being willing to obey directions from those who are taking the lead in true worship, though they are imperfect."
Jehovah's Witnesses always told me that they do not follow men, that they only follow Jehovah and Jesus. If Jehovah's Witnesses are to "obey" those who are "taking the lead", who are those "taking the lead" leading . . . and who did they "take" the lead from? The leaders are not "in" the lead, they "take" the lead.
If Jehovah's Witnesses are not following men, they can't be following the men taking the lead. So who is following those men taking the lead if not Jehovah's Witnesses? And why would Jehovah's Witnesses need to "obey" a man they are not following?Let's see if I have this straight. The Governing Body "takes the lead", we are repeatedly told. The Jehovah's Witnesses do not follow men, only God, we are even more repeatedly told. So, whom does the Governing Body lead? If they have no followers among the Jehovah's Witnesses, where do they have followers? Do they lead an empty procession with no people in it at all? What kind of leader has no followers? (Robert V Frazier)
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WTWizard
All of which leads to stagnation. Bicameral thinking (which happens when you follow directions from
others instead of your own leadership) is what leads to many a pxxx poor decision. And that is what
the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger has put in this book. -
lrkr
From the snippets I've seen here, this book looks like a Talmud of all of the Rules and Regulations of the Society. The first book catches the person's interest and the second makes sure that they OBEY!!!!
And the questions on the back- YIKES!!! They are all laced with guilt, inadequacy and domination language.
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lrkr
Sorry, I had to keep going-
"How to demonstrate that you truly love God." (Because likely you are lying and dont really love God and you have to demonstrate it, not just say it, not just feel it- Prove it to us that you love God)
"When to trust your conscience" (Dont trust your inner voice to say what is right and wrong- because you are a lousy good for nothing sinner. Let us tell you. Read this book over and over again and you will know what is right and wrong)
"What do your friends say about you" (See- we told you- you cant even be trusted to pick good friends- now just let us pick them for you)
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darth frosty
pg 48 "that is why a book study group has an overseer"
Bit slow to change this!!!
Makes me wonder if this book study change was a snap decision by the GB.
Good point TS.
Also, as it goes on to talk about CO's if they will revamp the CO ranks as has been rumored, more evidence that the BS change was not well thought out.
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lrkr
"How does your view of authority affect God's view of you" (Obviously, if you have the wrong attitude- God will hate you- or really dislike you. Forget all that stuff you read about unconditional love, grace, etc- God hates people with a bad attitude.)
"How can you develop the desire to OBEY"- (You want to have the desire- this we know- because it is the basic want of all humans- dont ask questions about that- it just is- NOW- we will help you want to OBEY- because this may not come easily- see previous remarks re you being lousy, good for nothing sinner)
"Why is obeying GOD in your best interests" (OK- heres where we tell you that you will die a terrible death if you don't obey. What? You don't believe that? OK then if you don't OBEY we will make your friends and family ignore you- forever!!! Ha! Now you see why it is your best interests to OBEY.
"How to be happy at work" (WTF- Where did this come from??? Go find that crazy writer and demote him to head dishwasher. This is all about OBEYING not practical stuff.)
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Ruth Eeker
Vomit.
Thats what's running through my mind right now.
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Eliabe
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is possible send too the "contend" ................ please and if possible send the cover and contend new book "Young People " Volume 2