by Billygoat 50 Replies latest social relationships
I don't know, I couldn't live with a women who didn't think for herself. I love the fact that my wife can give me a dressing down when I'm being an ass. I love the fact that once in a while I can feel like I'm being taken care of.
Unassertive women who let people walk all over them are sad.
Well, I'm going to throw my hat into the ring on this one.
Having been told by few people that, in person, I am intimidating, I quite frankly think it is a plus. Perhaps, I lost out on knowing some nice guys, however, the jerk morons of the world would also stay clear of me too.
I have to add though, that the only reason my spouse (a very sweet man) dared ask me out on a first date was because he knew my Mom before he ever met me and got the inside info on what I nice girl I was He was very sweet in his approach and I, in turn, didn't bite his head off.
I also have found that as men get older they tend to appreciate a woman of intelligence and independence more.
Andi, sweetie, just be who you are! I think you are terrific!
Andee
There's a flipside to this topic heading.
If you ever work for a woman, you'll wonder what women are scared of.
I've heard this complaint from women AND men who work for women.
I don't see any difference in the sexes for the most part. Insecure people in a leadership position take out their problem on the people underneath them. It applies equally to men AND women.
I've worked for two women in my career. Both were iron-fisted dominant types trying to make up for the fact they felt insecure about being the boss. I'll never work for another woman again.
I know plenty of women who feel the same way.
"The God that comes before skepticism may bear little resemblence to the God that comes after."
(M. Scott Peck: The Road Less Traveled)
Megadude
Both were iron-fisted dominant types...I thought this was right up your alley!
Andee
Having been told by few people that, in person, I am intimidating, I quite frankly think it is a plus. Perhaps, I lost out on knowing some nice guys, however, the jerk morons of the world would also stay clear of me too.I've also been told I'm intimidating. Like I said earlier, why I have no idea - I'm still little ol' Andi. But I like your perspective. I'll try to remember this! You're a sweetie too!
Ashi
I don't know, I couldn't live with a women who didn't think for herself. I love the fact that my wife can give me a dressing down when I'm being an ass. I love the fact that once in a while I can feel like I'm being taken care of.You're one in a million sweetie! Humility is such a noble and attractive trait - in anyone, man or woman. You're wife is lucky!
Abbaddon
Personally speaking, the only thing I am afraid of is nostril hair...Yikes! Me too!
Dins
I once had a boyfriend who said he admired me for my independent spirit but wanted me to do what he said. Contradiction!This is so my father! He would "say" he admired (as a child) my independent spirit. But then he did everything he could to break it. A total contradiction. So sad!
I never considered a woman's intellect to be a factor either way. If she musked me, that was about all I needed as encouragement.
It's just as easy to stalk a smart woman as a not so smart woman.
I'll never work for another woman again
hhhmmm Mega so you are lumping ALL women in authority positions together? You will NEVER work for another woman??? Never ever??? No matter what the position is,or who the woman is, or under any circumstances? Really I expected better of you mega....
Having been a woman that had men as subordinates, I can understand where MegaDude is coming from.
When a man directs staff, in general, he doesn't care what anyone thinks. There's an objective to be reached. Period.
When a woman directs, especially over men, she wants everyone to be happy and content. She cares about what everyone things about her.
There is also a conflict about whether or not she is too "bitchy". With all that going on, many women become rather overbearing or very indecisive. This causes alot of frustration and conflict with her staff. Females think and do much of this without realizing it.
When I supervised a crew of males, I didn't give a rats behind what they thought of me. I let them worry about that. I had a job to do.
Didn't like working for a female? Too f**king bad. Go somewhere else. However, I did my best to be fair. It was business, not personal relationships. I had few problems dealing with men.
Now, don't anyone get their panties in a knot, I know there are exceptions to this. I know I certainly was.
Andee
So Andee in seeing where Mega is coming from how would you feel if someone like him refused to work under you because and only because you were a woman?
To me that is what I will NEVER work for a woman implies. Regardless of who that woman is and what kind of boss she might be. I mean come on yes there are some bitchy women out there in positions of authority (I have worked with a few myself!) but there are some asshole men out there too in positions of authority!
I have worked in the constuction industry for a long time and have supervised men....never had a problem with it...we all somehow managed to get along...they didn't seem to mind me "bossing" them around. I don't think it is just the woman's attitude it is also the attitude of the men who are taking direction from her.
But that is just my take on things!
Well, I guess I have to do a little retraction.
I'd work for Billygoat or Xena or Andee.
Hey there Xena!
So Andee in seeing where Mega is coming from how would you feel if someone like him refused to work under you because and only because you were a woman?I'd THINK, not FEEL, Xena. We are talking business.
Anyway, if a guy refused to work under my supervision, I'd tell him clean out his desk, gather up his tools, whatever; I'd call payroll and have them cut his final check. See, the problem is HIS, not mine. I will hire someone who doesn't have a problem. That was my attitude, and I never had a problem with males that worked for me.
As for you, Mega, I probably would have chased you around my desk
Andee
