'Christmas' - (another view)

by Farkel 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    In the "Christmas" thread, ARoarer asked this:

    : ...have researched Christmas in a new way and have come to realize it is not as evil as WT teaches. The real ugliness is the WT. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I really need to get some encouragement with this decision and it's reprecussions.

    In the real world, non-dysfunctional families use several traditional times of the year to meet and bond. Christmas is one of them. I cannot count how many non-dysfunctional people have told me about how fondly they remember past Christmas's. When loved ones pass away, those holidays come to mind and bring comfort for the good memories they evoke. It (along with Thanksgiving in the USA) is one of those few times where family members will travel great distances to be with each other, and even set aside differences. It is a time of reminiscing, and giving and caring. The smell of the tree, the great food, the sparkle of the lights and brightly colored packages under the tree and the anticipation of what is in those packages surely create memories that will last a lifetime.

    But Jehovah's Witnesses ARE dysfunctional. They have sold their souls to a printing corporation that demands their unquestioning loyalty and promises only an empty hope; they have forfeited all rights to enjoy a simple holiday and all the good it offers. They have ceded their rights to be able to having enduring memories of family get-togethers during holiday times. They destroy the bonds between family members during these times. When those "evil unbeliever" family members get together, dubs extricate themselves and spend that time doing anything BUT creating fond memories for themselves and their children.

    To those of you who are still dubs and "staying in" only for the sake of the family and to those of you who are out, but hesitant to celebrate a Christmas, consider my life as a dub in the words below. I wrote this four years ago and many of you have already seen it. For those of you who haven't, I present it now.

    Please don't let your children have the kind of young life that I had.

    "Remember Jehovah in the Days of Your Youth"

    These words were the title of a Watchtower article I remember reading many years ago. As I recall, the sole purpose of the article was to convince young people to dedicate their younger years to full-time preaching for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

    Many people who become JWs as adults, and later leave, have at least some "normal" remembrances of a "traditional" childhood. This is not true with kids unfortunate enough to be born into the "truth."

    Although I have tried to supress it, I do vividly remember the days of my youth. I was pretty much Witness all of my young life, and my entire childhood and most of my twenties were spent as one. I am 53 now.

    I would like to share now how I "remember the days of my youth."

    In first grade, children were required to stand and say the pledge of allegiance to the flag every day. I had to stand at attention like a soldier, and utter nothing. The children teased me, and asked me why. So did my teacher. I really couldn't explain why, except it was against my religion. I missed a lot of school in first grade because of the hassles over the flag salute.

    Worse than the flag salute issue, though, was the national anthem, which is played at every school-sporting event I can recall. Not standing and singing when everyone else does in a large crowd is the worst form of terror for child or adult. I was called a Communist and
    worse. Kids tried to pick fights with me over it, and worst of all, many of these events were mandatory at my schools. Once again, I missed a lot of school on the days these events were held.

    My worst experience, though, was in my senior year in High School. I was part of a travelling assembly, which was to entertain at another school. I played the piano and was the first performer, so I was asked to sit at the piano from the very start of the assembly. I had to sit just below the stage in front, which required me have to face the entire audience (around 2,500 students and teachers).

    Suddenly all lights in the auditorium went out and a huge glaring spotlight was pointing to the back of the auditorium on the school honor guard. These students marched with the U.S. flag to the front of the auditorium and within 2 feet of me while the spotlight followed. The entire school was asked to rise and say the pledge of allegiance. This happened with the flag between me and the student body,while a brilliant spotlight showered me and the flag in light. I stood at rigid attention while the rest of the kids had their hands one their hearts and said the pledge. It was one of the most frightful days of my life and one I will never forget.

    Every Christmas, 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and all other major holidays were scheduled as some "special" field service day, so of course, I had to go. As a young child, I remember many Christmas mornings standing in the snow, knocking on doors, and seeing kids my age around the Christmas tree tearing open presents and screaming with joy, while I stood there in my pathetic little suit, carrying my pathetic little briefcase containing my pathetic little magazines waiting to give my pathetic little speech. It was pathetic.

    I never attended major or minor league sporting events as a kid or as an adult, because of the terror I had over the national anthem issue. I was never allowed to participate in school sports athletics, although I set several High School records in track in my gym class. Also, I could not take advantage of the resources offered by the YMCA.

    The How I Spent My Summer Vacation stories all school kids had to write were always centered around "vacation pioneering," because that is what I had to do. I could have used the same story 8 consecutive years in a row and the teachers would have been none the wiser.

    Nearly 30 Christmas seasons went by without me giving or receiving one single present. The same number of years went by, and I never was sung the Happy Birthday song, nor did I receive a solitary birthday present. I never attended all the birthday parties offered by acquaintances at school, either. I never saw a bag-full of candy on Halloween. Most Halloweens, my parents would turn the lights off, and the TV down, and we would sit silently while the hordes of little children knocked on our doors and shouted trick-or-treat. On other occasions, as part of my "ministerial training," I had to answer the door and explain to all the neighbor kids and their parents that we were Jehovah's Witnesses and didn't celebrate Halloween, and then try to stuff a Watchtower or Awake covering the subject into their bags.

    This Watchtower stuff about "Jehovah's Witnesses don't need holidays to be generous. They do it all year around," is a total bunch of crap from my personal exeriences. It never happened for me, and it never happened for any of my young Witness friends, either.

    Then, at age 24, I realized what I had suffered all through my youth for was a fraudulent LIE.

    Most of my youth was gone. And my youth was perverse. All for a LIE. So much of my youth was literally squandered being a slave for a moneymaking RACKET which fraudulently operates in the name of God.

    Ah, "the days of my youth," squandered in the service of "Jehovah." Yes, I remember them. I remember them well.

    Farkel

    "When in doubt, duck!"

  • momoftwo
    momoftwo

    "This Watchtower stuff about "Jehovah's Witnesses don't need holidays to be generous. They do it all year around," is a total bunch of crap from my personal exeriences. It never happened for me, and it never happened for any of my young Witness friends, either."

    I had to laugh at this. Most of the witnesses I knew were totally cheap. I never saw any gifts from the "friends," just an occasional one from my parents.

    As a side note, we had my daughter's second bday party last weekend. We had so much leftover food it was as if no one ate anything. I had to laugh at this, because if it had been a witness gathering there wouldn't have been a crumb left. I always marveled at the gluttony that went on in the org. I guess it was one of the few vices they could indulge in.

    mom

  • Andee
    Andee
    This Watchtower stuff about "Jehovah's Witnesses don't need holidays to be generous. They do it all year around," is a total bunch of crap from my personal exeriences.

    ahhhhh...Memories. I heard THAT one more than a few times.

    Reading it now makes my digestive system come extremely close to doing one of those disgusting, unholy, body functions that is the theme of another thread.

    Andee
    Resisting, mightily, to not projectile vomit her breakfast.

  • metatron
    metatron

    Right on, Farkel

    Suffering for something you believe in can be useful, even if the
    belief turns out to be false. I don't regret the flag salute stuff but the absence of holiday commemorations is really damaging.

    The Society and Joe Average Witness just don't get it. People
    get upset about not celebrating Christmas because of the loss
    of family, as you point out. It is EXTREMELY difficult to get
    a whole family to go somewhere together because mom and dad
    have jobs and the kids may have school/sports/jobs. Holidays
    give extended families a chance to BE a family.

    metatron

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Farkel

    Funny, i experienced some similar things in my school years. Seriously though, your account was very moving and analyzed accurately. I think the bithday issue may be similar.

    SS

  • Joseph Joachim
    Joseph Joachim

    Ok here is drama-queen Farkel doing his anual catharsis again.

    Many people who become JWs as adults, and later leave, have at least some "normal" remembrances of a "traditional" childhood. This is not true with kids unfortunate enough to be born into the "truth."

    This depends on your parents. Not all JW parents are equally restrictive. Well, my situation was somewhat special because my father was a JW but my mother wasn't, so my brother and I enjoyed a certain degree of freedom. But overall I don't think JW kids lose too much, and it is certainly not the case that all "normal" things are healthy.

    Although I have tried to supress it, I do vividly remember the days of my youth.

    I try to learn from it, not supress it.

    In first grade, children were required to stand and say the pledge of allegiance to the flag every day. I had to stand at attention like a soldier, and utter nothing. The children teased me, and asked me why. So did my teacher. I really couldn't explain why, except it was against my religion.

    I lived through that experience too, PLUS we were living under a militar dictatorship by that time, and the JW religion was officially forbidden. To make things worse I was the best student in the class and was supposed to be the flag-bearer. But teachers were very considerate. I think that your being bullied and called names is telling something about American chauvinism and intolerance, more than any other thing.

    Every Christmas, 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and all other major holidays were scheduled as some "special" field service day, so of course, I had to go.

    I didn't. I would just sleep until noon. This again depends on your parents.

    As a young child, I remember many Christmas mornings standing in the snow, knocking on doors, and seeing kids my age around the Christmas tree tearing open presents and screaming with joy, while I stood there in my pathetic little suit, carrying my pathetic little briefcase containing my pathetic little magazines waiting to give my pathetic little speech. It was pathetic.

    Well, you thought you were going to be living in a Paradise soon. I never felt pathetic. On the contrary, I felt very sorry for my classmates who would be soon destroyed in Armaggedon while I would be enjoying everlasting life on Earth. I've never felt a happiness like that again since I left the WT.

    The How I Spent My Summer Vacation stories all school kids had to write were always centered around "vacation pioneering," because that is what I had to do. I could have used the same story 8 consecutive years in a row and the teachers would have been none the wiser.

    I also used the same story for 7 years: "We didn't go anywhere on vacation because my parents are poor and couldn't afford it".

    Then, at age 24, I realized what I had suffered all through my youth for was a fraudulent LIE.
    Most of my youth was gone. And my youth was perverse. All for a LIE. So much of my youth was literally squandered being a slave for a moneymaking RACKET which fraudulently operates in the name of God.

    My coming out of the WT was somewhat more traumatic. I'll probably tell the story some day. However, I went to college while I was still a Witness, so I didn't spend my youth entirely, because I didn't let them control my life entirely. You should have done the same. It was your fault that you didn't.

    J.J.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : because I didn't let them control my life entirely. You should have done the same. It was your fault that you didn't.

    I'm sorry I don't have the awesome moral fortitude that you do, your worshipfulness.

    Farkel

    "When in doubt, duck!"

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Farkel

    You said,

    In the real world, non-dysfunctional families use several traditional times of the year to meet and bond. Christmas is one of them. I cannot count how many non-dysfunctional people have told me about how fondly they remember past Christmas's.
    You know non-dysfunctional people and families? I didn't think they really existed. What are they like?

    YERUSALYIM
    "Vanity! It's my favorite sin!"
    [Al Pacino as Satan, in "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"]

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus

    Joseph Joachim:

    Ok here is drama-queen Farkel doing his anual catharsis again.

    Who the #^&$ are you, with all of 23 posts, to make such a judgemnet of another poster?

    This depends on your parents.
    And this reduces the validity of Farkel's reminiscences of his own life exactly, how??

    "You've got the brain of a four-year-old boy, and I'll bet he was glad to get rid of it."
    - Groucho Marx

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Joseph Joachim,Farkel a drama queen?You haven`t been here long have you?Farkel expressed experiences many of us have gone through,so don`t press your limited experiences on us !Farkels an American,I`m a Canadian so this did not happen just in the United States.Dont pretend to tell any of us what happened in our lives,we know what happened,you don`t!>>>FARKEL,good post!It brings back a lot of memories...OUTLAW

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