Hubby said he was worried I would ever shut him out like I do my family. (page 2)

bebu

...And it is hard to shut someone out who is 1) being honest, and 2) trusts your motives.

bebu

hubert

Cognac, ask him ......Is there anything that the W.T. teaches that he has a problem with?

Then, research it together, outside of W.T. literature.

Hubert

cognac

On which level does he live, mainly?

He's more of an outdoors person.

Once we move, I know he will go less and less, because he's lazy about it and I think he only goes now because his friends that he grew up with goes there.

When he found out Rutherford was driving 2 nice cars and living in a mansion during the depression, that seemed to really piss him off... That was the biggest thing I found that really irritated him...

hubert

When he found out Rutherford was driving 2 nice cars and living in a mansion during the depression, that seemed to really piss him off... That was the biggest thing I found that really irritated him...

BINGO !!!!!!!

Do you know the rest of the story, Cognac? About the house being built "for the princes of old's return"?

It was to be forever held in trust by the society for them, but when Rutherford died, the W.T. sold it fours years later.

I can get you HARD COPY info on this, if you think it would help.

Hubert

dawg

Read him John 5:49... ask him how you both can have eternal life without partaking the meal?

nelly136

i know religions a bit of a hurdle between you right now, but maybe it wouldnt hurt to have the occassional religion free zone time too, so you can just concentrate on each other here and there, bit of good ol fashioned quality time doing couple stuff.

Carmel

I think the both of you are dealing with doctrin and not "spirituality". There is a vast difference. You may be avoiding discussing doctrin, but I bet two powdered dognuts, you're being kind, generous, patient, longsuffering, gentle, wise, caring.....etc., all spiritual qualities. The love you have for him is the epitomy of "spirituality" and you should be commended for it. Now, as to question(s), I'm wondering what criteria your husband uses to determine "truth" when it comes to religion. Jesus gave guidance as to how to determine if one who claims to be a prophet is false or not. Would that be good enough for him? If so, apply the same criteria to others who claim to represent God on earth and see where the tea leaves settle out. I wish you well. carmel

flipper

COGNAC- I agree with some posters who say you and your husband should do non-witness, or non-Bible things together ! Like make love, go to the beach for a trip, the mountains, or do fun hobbies together. Go out dancing, listening to live music- loosen up that witness tight shirt you have as a husband. Go corrupt him real good ! LOL! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

jwfacts

You mention that he is not interested in spiritual study and has broken rules before. You also have shown him a lot of information, enough for him to realise it is not the truth if he wanted to. I would suggest that you don't make study and tricky questions a big thing with him. I got my wife out, not by study which she was not interested in and always caused fights, but by building a more enjoyable life outside of the organization.

You said that you do not know what holds him in. For many, and from what you have said, for your husband as well I imagine it is for the social life. The most effective way to move on as a happy couple is to go out together and build friendships elsewhere, such as by joining clubs. Once he has a full and enjoyable life not based around the WTS, he will not be scared to leave it.

WTWizard

Ideally, he would be more open minded. Realistically, I think he is going to refuse to use independent sources to study the Bible with. He will not study the Bible without a washtowel or asleep to go along with it. He has that September 2007 Kingdumb Misery to go by, and therefore will probably not agree to an independent study of the Bible.

Sure, this is going to create lots of arguments. He will not open up and disagree with the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger when they are blatantly wrong. He will not agree to use just the Bible, using washtowel material solely as reference. Chances are pretty good that spiritual cutting him off is going to be necessary for there to be any peace.

Dumping him? That should be the last resort--and I would not suggest playing that card for a few petty differences. There is a better chance that, come the next hounding call, he is going to be hounded to play cold toward you, and that would be the best time (if it comes to that). Remember, if he dumps you for "absolute spiritual endangerment", he is not free to remarry unless and until you remarry or commit adultery. In that case, his choices will be to remain celibate, reconcile with you (and one of the terms could be to agree to be open minded and not argue every time you disagree with the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger), or remarry and get disfellowshipped for "adultery". Which would free you to remarry, if it comes to that. The hope is that it doesn't come to that, but knowing those hounding calls, I would be prepared for such eventuality.

Hubby said he was worried I would ever shut him out like I do my family.

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