by UnDisfellowshipped 56 Replies latest watchtower bible
oy.....
Witnesses believe that Christ is 'divine' but that he isn't a triune god......
really can you show me in the bible where it says that salvation hinges on accepting, professing and believing in trinity that isn't solely based on a person's perception and interpretation of scripture.
(shakes head, smiles at knowing it is far easier to convert a trinitarian to our belief versus the other way around;-)
I really love the Mr. Deity series... here's what they have on this:
I believe He is Deity.
Syl
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
BTS
The audio presentation below is given with a JW audience in mind. IMHO, it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion about the Trinity unless one understands what the doctrine is. One need not believe it or subscribe to it to understand (1) what it is and (2) why most of Christianity does.
(RealPlayer of Media Player Classic will be needed to listen to these .ram files.)
http://www.waltermartin.com/audio_clips/trinity.ram (Part I)
http://www.waltermartin.com/audio_clips/trinity2.ram (Part II)
it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion about the Trinity unless one understands what the doctrine is. One need not believe it or subscribe to it to understand (1) what it is and (2) why most of Christianity does.
Amen.
Syl
Good grief......another attempt to convert people to the Trinity cult.
Think About It
I don't think so as scripture does say that Jesus is God and the Holy Ghost is God and the Father is God so there is no denying scripture when you embrace the Trinity. To deny the Trinity is to deny scripture. I'm sure Designs will chime in how bishops changed the scriptures, but the scriptures say what they say and it would be cult-esh to deny the divinity if Jesus or the Holy Ghost. Jesus claimed to be God when he said 'I AM'. That's why the Jews with him wanted to stone him. Only a brain washed cultist could deny it. He would also deny that 2+2=4 if his cult leaders told him to.
dc
To deny the Trinity is to deny scripture.
I respectfully disagree.
The Holy Spirit never referred to itself as I AM.
Syl
Witnesses believe that Christ is 'divine' but that he isn't a triune god......
really can you show me in the bible where it says that salvation hinges on accepting, professing and believing in trinity that isn't solely based on a person's perception and interpretation of scripture.
OK, let's start with Jesus being God, not "a god", "divine" or anything else.
10 "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD,
"and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
19 Then they asked him, "Where is your father?"
"You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also." 20 He spoke these words while teaching in the temple area near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his time had not yet come.
21 Once more Jesus said to them, "I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come."
22 This made the Jews ask, "Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, 'Where I go, you cannot come'?"
23 But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, [ a ] you will indeed die in your sins."
Footnotes:19 "I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He. 20 I tell you the truth, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me."
Heed the Lord's own warning on the matter.
8 He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
Blessings,
Stephen
Snow.
The Holy Spirit speaks. Teaches. Counsels. Comforts.
These are things that a person does.
BTS
