If you dance with the devil you dont change the devil the devil changes you.
No school for you: confirmation of CO outline on education
by raindog 35 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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minimus
They want workers, not thinkers.
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changeling
Congratulations raindog! I am proud of you! And I know how you feel. I was an excellent student but it made no difference to my parents. The only thing they asked was that I have good conduct grades so as not to bring reproach on Jehovah (or my elder Dad).
Stay in school!
changeling :)
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Farkel
I think sf nailed the insanty best so far.
:Now, there seems to be some debate about what qualifies as an education.
Ok. So far so good. Except for ONE tiny little problem: does grade school qualify as an "education?" Does high school qualify as an "education." You mean it "doesn't? In the entire universe the only place it doesn't is in Wathcotwer world.
: If a dub is going to a trade school to be a nurse, welder, etc, that is allowed.
"That is allowed." How freaking generous of the Watchtower Pharisees(tm). They "allow" you to go to trade school! Who can believe this shit? Does "trade" school qualify as an "education." Apparently, in Wathcotwerthink it doesn't. I guess after two years of trade school, you don't end up with ANY more "education" than you had when you started! Idiots!!!
However, going to college for four years to get a good paying job is not allowed.
Ok, fine. Then what if you go to college for four years, but NOT for the reason of getting a good paying job? What if you just like to know stuff. According to their reasoning if your motive is not to get a good paying job, then it must by default, be allowed! Morons and pharasees and simpletone assholes!
According to their reasoning wanting a "good paying job" is what is wrong. Why then, do they "allow" (how generous of them) people to go to trade school, if not to get a good or better paying job? Does anyone go to trade school for any other reason than to get a better paying job than they could get otherwise. Why are they so anal that manual labor is somehow good and intellectual labor is somehow bad? How much money per year qualifies as a "good paying job?" Where is the line drawn?
Why is it the Watchtower Printing Corporation is so concerned that its members NOT EVER strive for a good paying job? How does that further their Kingdom Interests(tm)? If everyone works say, 8 hours a day, how is it "more Christian/Theocratic" to get shitty wages than to get "well paying wages" for those 8 hours? Can anyone explain this insanity to me?
I understand going to a Community College for two years is ok, but going to a regular college is frowned upon. Ok, fine. Two years seems to be the Theocratic Limit(tm) for school. Go get the two years. Then go get the other two years at a University. You have two arguments: "hey, I'm just doing a two year stint at the U. and I'm NOT doing it for the money. I swear I am not doing it for the money."
The Watchtower is a freak show in action.
Farkel
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BizzyBee
Then what if you go to college for four years, but NOT for the reason of getting a good paying job? What if you just like to know stuff.
It-zackly what I was thinking! - because that is why I went to college.
The FDS would probably frown on that reasoning even more than the good-paying job. I was frequently and smugly told, "JW's don't want higher education - we want the highest education." Presumably, the education consisting of the made-up shit printed by the WTS.
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cognizant dissident
You can't go to trade school to become a registered nurse anymore. It requires a 4 year bachelor of science degree
this is not correct. Trade school maybe not...but 4 year degree is not required.... Please note that this program has one of the highest pass rates for RNs taking their licensing exams in that state and the country......this is a 2 year program normally....though it does take some longer...but it is an associates NOT a bachelor....
Snakes, I am from Canada, and in our country a BSN has been required to become an RN since 2001. (I know because I was in the program!) So, that is where the discrepancy lies. I wonder if we are getting the same CO direction in Canada as in the States?
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cognizant dissident
Then what if you go to college for four years, but NOT for the reason of getting a good paying job? What if you just like to know stuff.
Anything you want to or need to know will be taught to you by the WTBTS, don't ya know! If they are not teaching it to you then you should not want to be knowing it!
Cog
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Carlos_Helms
The watchtower society has the means to build a system of colleges the way the Mormons have. I would think that IF they find any benefit to higher education (read: offspring of certain GB members); it would behoove the powers-that-be to create a safe and contained system of colleges or universities for their benefit.
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Room 215
Take heart elders and MS who are removed for this reason: they're doing you one enormous favor!
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daniel-p
this is not correct. Trade school maybe not...but 4 year degree is not required.... Please note that this program has one of the highest pass rates for RNs taking their licensing exams in that state and the country......this is a 2 year program normally....though it does take some longer...but it is an associates NOT a bachelor....
Ironically, I know a JW who graduated from this program and immediately moved out of state and became a nurse...still a dub though....makes great money...some of the elders in her original congo (one I was in) criticized her for doing this 2 year program...thought she should just keep pioneering....
I think the confusion arises with the fact that a typical two-year nursing degree program has two years' worth of prerequisites to qualify for the program. Thus, it commonly takes a total of 4 years to get a degree qualifying one to sit for the board exam to become an RN. OR, as an alternative, a person could get a bachelors and do it all together in the same program. But in either case, it commonly takes 4 years to acquire the education to become an RN.