30,000 US troops to go home in July.

by BurnTheShips 25 Replies latest social current

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  amicus

  So, you pack up and leave and wonder why, in 20-30 years time there is an oil-rich nation that wants to kick your ass for what you did to their country. Not that this is like your previous meddling in Iran at al ...

  We Americans have a pretty poor track record when it comes to Foreign Policy. Heck, we can't even stop bickering among ourselves long enough to take a rational approach to Domestic Policy. When all of the posturing was going on prior to this idiocy I was dumbfounded. I just kept telling myself, "No, we aren't going to be that stupid...".

  Let's not forget that the CIA backed Sadaam in his rise to power. We helped create the monster, we then killed the monster and the Iraqi citizens paid the price. Hell, we even dropped cluster bombs on those poor people. Good job. Bush did a bang up job of spreading his Christian message there.

  I can't even begin to fathom how angry I would be if another Country invaded mine without provocation and proceeded to murder 10's of thousands of civilians around me. I'd darn well make sure my kids, my grandkids and anyone else who would listen remembered what had occured.
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  amicus

  You folks do know that whoever inherets this mess will have to conduct a paced drawdown. You cannot evacute the people and assets we have in theater in a week or two. There will be a rear guard to cover the exit in place.

  I'd rather see a "bad" plan working in this case... instead of the "last man out" deal we did in VN.

  Hill

  I'm with you there, the "last man out" debacle in Vietnam was about as embarasing as the mess we made of that whole conflict.

  The pullout in Iraq needs to proceed at a rapid pace though. We've meddled enough in Iraq's internal affairs for a generation or so.

  There's always another hornets nest somewhere else we can stir up to keep our all knowing leaders entertained and give our troops the combat experience our generals so highly value.
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  restrangled

  Meanwhile I have two sons who are both training this very week for redeployment over to the war zone in the near future. It isn't over yet.

  I am thinking of you Susan and your sons. Much love to you all.

  r.
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  dinah

  Burns, are you a Republican propaganda specialist after you left the Dubs?

  Of course they are drawing down, we got our ass whipped. So much for Billy Bad Ass Cowboy. They were the ones who made cars get 9 mpg, couple that with trickle down economics. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how that would work.

  It amazes me that someone that STUPID but so WELL CONNECTED got elected as Pres-O-dint

  He's trying to save face and not look like the greedy, stupid asshole he is.
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  Indo_Dude

  The 30,000 troops returning home has nothing to do with any events, or status on the ground in Iraq. Those 30,000 soldiers have hit MAXIMUM TIME IN A COMBAT ZONE time limit. It has no bearing on if Iraq is better, worse or the same. Those troops were going home no matter what. What was 'sold' to the American people as a "few month" surge, turned into the maximum time possible under deployment limitations.

  As far as the 'surge working' that's pretty stupid to state. The stated goal of the surge was to reduce violence so the govt of Iraq could get their shit together. Has violence been reduced? Duh. If the state of Texas (which is about the population of Iraq) hired another 30,000 police officers don't you think crime will go down? Ok, violence was reduced, what did the govt of Iraq do during this time? Not much to nothing at all by any measurement. a

  We can't replace those 30,000 troops even if we wanted to. Why? Because we have no more troops to rotate in. That's why!
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  Poztate

  We can't replace those 30,000 troops even if we wanted to. Why? Because we have no more troops to rotate in. That's why!

  All they have to do is change the rules,change the laws and guess what.. they could rotate you in and out of Iraq until Hell freezes over.

  The Dubs do the same thing. If something isn't working they will change the parameters until they achieve the results they want.