CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?

by Perry 34 Replies latest social current

  • Perry
    Perry

    I just received this email. I don't see this flying for this election, but if obama wins, it might open the door for changing laws in the future concerning who can be eligible for the Presidency and who cannot.

    CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?

    It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all
    for the following reason:

    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to
    the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "
    December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires
    a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen
    parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was
    born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: ".

    If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent
    must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at
    least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

    Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when
    Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10
    years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai'i being a territory) the
    mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to**
    Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after* .

    In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic
    U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his
    mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18
    in Hawai'i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years
    old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a
    natural-born citizen.

    As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old
    at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him
    as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been
    naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from
    holding the office.

    *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of
    President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10,
    all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who
    needed to have been a U.S. citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on
    August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further,
    Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to
    protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in
    Indonesia.

    Now you can see why Obama's aides stopped his speech about
    how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led
    to this dis covery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of
    U.S. election law.

    I think the Gov. of California would be very
    insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without
    being a natural-born U.S. citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay
    tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will
    be leaking through over the next several days.

    It will be Interesting to see if it comes out.......

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    That is completely bogus.

    Obama was born to an American mother on American soil.

    Even if both his parents were not American he would be a natural born American.

    This is just a stupid smear job.

    Case closed.

    BTS

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Hawaii became a state in 1959.

    Obama was born in 1961.

    Obama was born in a US state. There is no ambiguity regarding his citizenship.

    BTS

  • Perry
    Perry

    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to
    the law on the books at the time of his birth

    I don't this is a personal smear if it's true. I certainly don't think that it matters for this election even if it is true. However, if future laws are changed regarding the criteria for eligibility, then if Obama wins, there would be some precedence for making those changes retroactive regarding future candidates.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    That is completely bogus.

    Obama was born to an American mother on American soil.

    Even if both his parents were not American he would be a natural born American.

    This is just a stupid smear job.

    Case closed.

    BTS

    Sylvia

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to
    the law on the books at the time of his birth

    Bullsh**. This law:

    If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent
    must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at
    least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

    Only applies if you are born outside of the United States. In 1961, Hawaii was a State in the United States of America. Obama was born in the US.

    Here is the law:

    http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html

    It only applies if you are born OUTSIDE the US.

    They are quoting the rule out of context. It is a lie.

    BTS

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    This is nonsense.

    According to Article 2 of the Constitution the President must be (1) a natural born citizen of the United States, (2) at least 35 years old, and (3) a resident of the United States for 14 years.

    Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. Therefore he is a natural born citizen of this country.

    Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kansas.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama

  • Perry
    Perry

    It appears that McCain faces a similar situation. I see possible Supreme Court legal battles no matter who wins....depending on how big a sore loser the losing side is.

    Just what this country needs... more legal wrangling concerning our ellection process.

    John McCain's Citizenship Status & Eligibility for the Presidency Called into Question

    Submitted by Julie on February 4, 2008 - 9:36pm.

    Senator John McCain (R-AZ) was born August 29, 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone on a U.S. military base to two United States citizens. Because of the location of his birth, McCain's eligibility for the presidency is now in question.

    The U.S. Constitution states that "No person except a natural born citizen shall be eligible to the office of President." While no one is disputing that McCain is a citizen of the United States, the issue of whether he can be considered a "natural born citizen" is being called into question. A natural born citizen "is where only the natural act of one being born in a place determines the status of ones citizenship with no additional stipulations necessary to influence that status."

    Although McCain was born on a U.S. military base, it is now being argued that he is not a natural born citizen, but rather, should be considered a "naturalized" citizen. Panama, is not a U.S. territory - it is a sovereign nation.

    To date, no law or court ruling has ever actually established the official or precise definition of what is a "natural born citizen". However, it is typically agreed that a natural born citizen is one who is born in any of the 50 U.S. states or the District of Columbia.

    But now that the issue has come up, will it come down to a court ruling to settle the issue? As Mitt Romney has made the accusations in his campaign, it's not likely an issue to go away soon.

  • XJW4EVR
    XJW4EVR

    There are a number of reasons to NOT vote for Senator Obama, his citizenship is NOT one of them.

  • Perry
    Perry

    Big Tex, Is that current law or 1961 law?

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