Can someone help me out? I'm trying to remember what is said during baptism. Do they baptise "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"? I can't remember.
Jehovah's Witnesses & Baptism
by sacolton 12 Replies latest jw friends
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sir82
Do you mean at the time of the actual dunk in the water?
I did that one year at a crcuit assembly. The dunkers are not supposed to say anything other than instructions on how to hold your nose, and then a "ready?"
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sacolton
That's what I recall too. "Cross your arms and hold your nose." ... but at anytime does the phase, "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" come into play during baptism?
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hillbilly
I was cold, blue and a little distracted when they did it to me... but I remember "we will do it again if your foot pops out" and "cross your arms, ready"
I have a post way back were we found the Baptismal "questions" from pre 83 and post 83... the ones they ask you to affirm at the end of the talk.
Jeff
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babygirl75
"Cross your arms and hold your nose." ... but at anytime does the phase, "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" come into play during baptism?
I remember them saying cross your arms and hold your nose, and then him asking me if I was ready. I think right before being dunked, he did say "in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit". I was only 13 so I could just be imaginging it???
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Eyes Open
On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?
Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?
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sacolton
Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism." Watchtower 1985 June 1 p.30
ARGHHH! I knew it! I knew it! They inserted THEMSELVES!
Why? Why? Why didn't I research this cult before I gave them 9 years of my life?!!!
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OnTheWayOut
jwfacts.com covers it. So does freeminds.org
...in 1985 the Society changed the baptismal vows such that new Jehovah's Witnesses committed themselves not only to God, but to the Watchtower Society. This is evident from the baptismal vows published over the years. The baptismal questions from the Aug. 1, 1966 Watchtower (p. 465) were:
(1) Have you recognized yourself before Jehovah God as a sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?
(2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?
The May 15, 1970 (p. 309) and May 1, 1973 (p. 280) issues printed slightly revised vows. The newest baptismal questions were set forth in the June 1, 1985 (p. 30) Watchtower:
(1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?
(2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?
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MominAustin
hmm -- good point.. I can't remember....... :(
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sacolton
Well, the way I see it, if anyone not baptised "in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" - they aren't baptised at all.
Matthew 28:19-20
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Jesus gave instructions on how to baptise. The WTBTS has ignored His command to insert themselves into the baptism vow.