The contagion is spreading - lots of people quietly leaving JWs (page 2)

nondescriptex

Family ties keep many from leaving completely. If the organization would ever let people leave without forcing the family to cut off association (disfellowship), many more would leave. I think everyone would be better off in that case. Makes no sense to force people to stay in. "God doesn't force people to serve him", right?

Here is an attempt to sell this "new light" to the organization - so I've tried to put it in their point of view... It would help the org if they got rid of dead weight. Less time wasted trying to make people do things they will never do (more meetings and service) because they really don't want to be JWs anyway. Let those who leave serve as an example, since surely they will suffer. Many will learn their lesson and come back with more zeal than ever before. It would remove a major "apostate" weapon - because "apostates" are rather effective with exposing the pain and ruthlessness of breaking up families. It would let people be in the organization for the right reasons, not simply for maintaining family ties. It would be in harmony with the shift from the way of worship in ancient Israel, toward the Christian way. (well, that idea wouldn't help sell the idea, but anyway)

shamus100

Yknot and Nondiscriptex hit it on the head.

There are many people just hanging in there, and many who just get re-instated so they can fade, just so they can see they're families. They don't serve Jehoblah out of love - so they're going to theoretically have they're eyes picked out by the crows at armageddon anyways (if you believe the Filthy and Discreet Slave).

Just pathetic.

free2beme

I have noticed a lot of people waking up to suddenly realize they are actually in a religion with the same traits of Chicken Little, and start making the process to leave implemented. It is not happening in as great a number as you make it sound though, still plenty of die hards that would stick around and drink the punch, if that was how it ended.

whitman

Did anyone else get a pm about this thread?

penny2

I'd been contacted all of a sudden by three or four people who were in the process of leaving or had recently left.

whitman, I'm so glad to hear that this is happening in Australia too!

penny

The Oracle

yes, I have noticed a lot of fading lately...

I hope that the trend continues....

and I am pretty sure it will .... .... yipeeeee!

The Oracle

whitman

Penny, I think that Australian culture poses some problems with the borg keeping their youngsters in. I've noticed that the borg seems to be targetting newly established ethnic communities. I know of at least one case where they have created a congregation entirely devoted to one particular racial group. This group is very actively supported by the rank and file who believe they are assisting people in learning about God etc - so a two fold approach - target marginalised ethnic groups and bring them in, and give the rank and file a project to dedicate their 'spare' time to. Very clever, very tricky. Unfortunately the Australian culture, I would suggest, is facilitating a lot of the younger dubs who grew up in the borg to leave. I don't see as much pressure here as in the accounts from the U.S about the issue of being DF-ed, they seem to be just fading or leaving without too much of a stir. I'm still getting some accounts of shunning, but that may be specific to a particular familial culture rather than from the Australian version of the borg itself. Hard to tell, but it's great to see that there is movement.

erandir

Yay...I'm infected, too! I don't want to be cured. I've left, and I'm staying out!!!

whitman

Good for you erandir - is it possible that we could bottle this contagion or infection? We could then release the infection into air conditioning at K.Halls and conventions and watch the resulting riots and emergency exiting. If we can't bottle it, should we just start sneezing on them?

erandir

I wish it were that easy. It would be worth a visit to the hall to infect them.

The contagion is spreading - lots of people quietly leaving JWs

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