by Marilyn 34 Replies latest jw friends
Gweedo, I've had similiar things - but I believe that's a sleep state. I've had an old woman next to me, and big black dogs and god knows what. I scream piercingly and scare the bejezus out of my husband and I order my kids to stay out of it while I sort it all out. I'm alseep. Simple as that.
I think people get very confused about whether they are asleep because I think this state feels very real. That's the brain for ya!!
Marilyn
Marilyn
Gweedo, I've had similiar things - but I believe that's a sleep stateJust as I'm waking up these things have happened to me. I dont think it's anything supernatural. But's it's the closet I've ever come. It's were sleep and reality sort of merge, I believe.
I am a Christian, and I know about demons.
So, what do you want to know?
tp
Hi a Christ. I'm a devil. Would you buy me a pepsi?
I'm an agnostic. I've had many encounters with demons. I've seen them a few times, but mostly they manifest themselves as a presence that can be felt rather than visibly. I've heard them a lot more often than I've seen them. And, twice that I recall, I had to fight for control of my own body to prevent harm to my friends who were with me.
It's noteworthy that all of this happened while I was on LSD. It was just the drug. If you don't want to hallucinate, then don't take it. Know what I mean, Vern?
COMF
Hehehe! Comf, when I used to drink and pop sleeping pills prescribed to my mother - (did I mention I had an addictive personality), I used to see spiders on the walls the size of a dinner plate. I'd get out of bed to look at them and they'd disappear.
Marilyn
Thomas Poole,you are a CHRIST??...OUTLAW
I'm going to address this from a different angle, which may or may not sound good.. Have you ever been in love? If yes, does that prove love exist? If no, does it prove it doesn't?
It's already been pointed out that it depends on the individual's interpretation of the experience. Someone who think's they're in love with the greatest person in the world would obviously have to believe love exists, and the person who's jaded and cynical about love may very well deny the fact that others care about them, in whatever shape or form that may take.
Things like this will often be misinterpreted too. On the rare occasions where I discuss the principles behind internal martial arts with people who are not familiar with it, I find people who are not familiar with it have a tendancy to interpret the phenomenon as psychokinesis, which it is not, and none of the practitioners think of it in that way. But there are people who question whether it actually exists, too, and of course that comes from their own experience base and what they believe based on people they know etc. In this case, to have the experience would either mean you develop the ability yourself, which people will readily tell you take a long time, or you can be on the receiving end and get hurt. So... In a way it's kind of a catch 22, but people who fancy themselves as tough guys have gotten hurt before.
I think I've said it before, but the interesting thing about this kind of stuff is that all the teaching and teachers who seems to be most authentic to me will tell you to meditate in some way, and the common ingredient in the meditations is to think of nothing or cling to nothing, not even the belief that it is true, I can do it, I believe in myself or any of that crap. Maybe that is what is hard, or atleast rare - for people to completely drop all of their assumptions, even for just a moment.
Intro, you are being way to vague for me. Can you be more specific???
Marilyn
As I was walking up the stair
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd stay away
Hughes Mearns (1875-1965)
If I had had any kind of supernatural experience, I wouldn't be an atheist.
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
