Education and apostasy are the same, right?

by easyreader1970 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • easyreader1970
    easyreader1970

    Over the past year or so, I have noticed that the Watchtower has been jumping all over two "threats" to the Organization: Higher Education and Apostasy. Many times they speak about them in the same article. They also have been focusing on them in the assemblies and conventions. The way they relate them, it is only a matter of time, I think, before they become one and the same.

    The reason I say so is this. Years ago, their reasons for downplaying higher education were as follows: Immoral sex, irresponsible drinking, living away from a Christian home, expense, time wasted, etc. Those were the reasons. (Never mind that all of those things could be done with or without college.) They didn't focus on apostasy much, either, until recently. It was there, it was a threat, but somehow mature Christians just knew better and didn't have to be constantly reminded that Satan is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    But now the message is different. The danger in higher education is that it exposes you to the wrongful teachings and philosophies of [educated] men. The science does not factually match up with what the Bible or (more specifically) the Witnesses teach. These things lead to apostasy.

    I need to stop there. For most of my life as a Witness, an apostate was someone who rebelled against the organization in such a way that he leaves it but turns his attention to bringing the organization down. It wasn't just Joe Smith who just fell away but it was the Joe Smith who was picketing in front of the convention center and passing out "Jehovah's Witnesses are the Devil" pamphlets across the street from the Kingdom Halls.

    This is mere speculation on my part, but I think they are leaning towards making anyone who leaves the Truth, regardless of the reason, into an apostate. Eventually I think that this might even include "inactive" ones.

    This is a scary thought.

    er

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    Well, you ought to give them credit. They're absolutely right. A little dose of real research and I was already mentally gone!

    The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Bad is now as close as your local community college!

  • hamilcarr
    hamilcarr

    This says everything

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R4f9ygxDbk

    "Going to college or not may be a reflexion of your faith"

  • buckster
    buckster

    Easyreader that is how I remeber the view of apostasy. At the time it really was seen as more of a label for the person who was putting an effort into trying to turn people away. That's the way it came across to me. I am not saying those are the facts it is just the way it was expalined to me as a kid. And our family was full of oh so special office holders. Both sides.

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586
    Easyreader that is how I remeber the view of apostasy. At the time it really was seen as more of a label for the person who was putting an effort into trying to turn people away. That's the way it came across to me. I am not saying those are the facts it is just the way it was expalined to me as a kid. And our family was full of oh so special office holders. Both sides.

    And that's a common view, buckster. Some months ago I was talking with friends about the definition of apostate and I told them about the "new and improved" definition of anyone who doesn't believe 100% in the FDS, period. They don't have to go spreading their views. The crime is now merely independent thought. They were suprised to hear the readjusted denotation. I wonder why they didn't do this sooner, really. The apostate is their scariest label ever. Any stories from the dubs involving apostates always included stories of how "frightening" they were! Kids nowadays--barring the fundy brainwashed ones--aren't scared by demons anymore. Time to make a new monster.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    They really tightened the screws. I went from 1999-2003 and the PO and CO never said I was doing anything wrong.

    In the current climate, I would never have gone to university, I am fortunate I squeaked through.

    BTS

  • buckster
    buckster

    That video is just....leaves me damn speechless. I knew....I know....but every time hear this crap it just becomes a bigger steaming pile!

  • feenx
    feenx

    I can TOTALLY see them moving this way. They've harped on the education issue and the internet issue for quite a long time, to no avail. Personally I don't see why more people don't wake up and see that CLEARLY higher education can be good because the very organization that they listen to wouldn't be able to function without all it's lawyers, doctors and businessmen. But besides that, in any event, they've lost the battle thus far. Dubs are still going to college and still surfing the net, both of which provide info outside the cult. APOSTASY is the only thing they have left that still makes people gasp, because of the very definition explained at the beginning of this post. Apostates were always the freaks trying to stop people from going inside the conventions, etc. Or they were the CRAZY CO's or Elders who warped the minds of those who listened to them and turned them against the society cause deep and long lasting rifts in the congregations. People still hold an actual fear of apostates, so why not use that as a means to curtail people waking up to the never ending lines of shite that comes from the podium? Pretty smart if you ask me, in a f*cked up way.

    feenx
    Indigo Insight

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    I concur. In years past, I recall apostates being the anti-Christs picketing the conventions. Terrible satanic folk. Now, the apostate label gets thrown around rather freely. Which can be a good thing since it includes fine, respectable ex-JWs whose only fault is to disagree with the bOrg. As 'apostate' ranks grow, it will be increasingly embarrasing for the dubs, not for the ex-dubs.

    I suppose that if education and apostasy are the same, they'll need a new word for it. How about either:

    • Edupostasy
    • Apostacation

    B the X

  • Awakened at Gilead
    Awakened at Gilead

    I'm a textbook case for education and apostasy.

    I went to an online college so it wouldn't affect my association, FS, or meeting attendance.

    Right before I finished college I applied my newly acqured critical thinking skills to my own belief system...

    Voila! Instant apostate...

    I am here thanks to my aposducation

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