Right To Die?

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  • hamilcarr
    hamilcarr

    Or a government ban on assisted suicide?

    Assisted Suicide of Healthy 79-Year-Old Renews German Debate on Right to Die

    alt Roland Magunia/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images By MARK LANDLER Published: July 3, 2008

    FRANKFURT — When Roger Kusch helped Bettina Schardt kill herself at home on Saturday, the grim, carefully choreographed ritual was like that in many cases of assisted suicide, with one exception.

    Ms. Schardt, 79, a retired X-ray technician from the Bavarian city of Würzburg, was neither sick nor dying. She simply did not want to move into a nursing home, and rather than face that prospect, she asked Mr. Kusch, a prominent German campaigner for assisted suicide, for a way out.

    Her last words, after swallowing a deadly cocktail of the antimalaria drug chloroquine and the sedative diazepam, were “auf Wiedersehen,” Mr. Kusch recounted at a news conference on Monday.

    It was hardly the last word on her case, however. Ms. Schardt’s suicide — and Mr. Kusch’s energetic publicizing of it — have set off a national furor over the limits on the right to die, in a country that has struggled with this issue more than most because of the Nazi’s euthanizing of at least 100,000 mentally disabled and incurably ill people.

    “What Mr. Kusch did was particularly awful,” Beate Merk, the justice minister of Bavaria, said in an interview. “This woman had nothing wrong other than her fear. He didn’t offer her any other options.”

    Germany’s conservative chancellor, Angela Merkel, declared on a German news channel on Wednesday, “I am absolutely against any form of assisted suicide, in whatever guise it comes.”

    On Friday, Bavaria and four other German states will push for new laws to ban commercial ventures that help people kill themselves. Suicide itself is not a crime, nor is aiding a suicide, provided it does not cross the line into euthanasia, or mercy killing.

    But many here do not want Germany to follow the example of Switzerland, where liberal laws on euthanasia have led to a bustling trade in assisted suicide. In the last decade, nearly 500 Germans have crossed the border to end their lives with the help of a Swiss group that facilitates suicides.

    “We want to make it illegal for people here to offer ‘suicide by reservation,’ ” Ms. Merk said. “That is inhumane.”

    By helping Ms. Schardt end her life, and then broadcasting the result, Mr. Kusch has, in effect, hung out a shingle. A former senior government official from Hamburg, Mr. Kusch, 53, said he would help other people like her who decide of their own free will to commit suicide.

    “My offer, since last Saturday, is to allow people to die in their own beds,” he said in a telephone interview on Wednesday. “That is the wish of most people, and now it is possible in Germany.”

    With his penchant for brazen publicity, Mr. Kusch recalls Jack Kevorkian, the euthanasia crusader in Michigan who all but dared the authorities to stop his assisted suicides, and ended up in prison. But Mr. Kusch, who is trained as a lawyer, is careful not to cross the legal line.

    In Ms. Schardt’s case, he counseled her about how to commit suicide, but did not provide or administer the drugs. He left the room after she drank the poisonous brew and returned three hours later to find her dead on her bed. He videotaped the entire process as proof that he was not an active participant.

    Prosecutors have looked into the case, but it does not appear that Mr. Kusch is in legal jeopardy.

    Mr. Kusch also videotaped five hours of interviews with Ms. Schardt, in which she discussed her fears and why she wanted to die. He showed excerpts at the news conference, causing an outcry. “A 10-minute video says more than if I had talked for two hours,” he said.

    While Ms. Schardt was not suffering from a life-threatening disease, or in acute pain, her life was hardly pleasant, Mr. Kusch said. She had trouble moving around her apartment, where she lived alone. Having never married, she had no family. She also had few friends, and rarely ventured out.

    In such circumstances, a nursing home seemed likely to be the next stop. And for Ms. Schardt, who Mr. Kusch said feared strangers and had a low tolerance for those less clever than she was, that was an unbearable prospect.

    “When she contacted me by e-mail on April 8, she had already decided to commit suicide,” Mr. Kusch said, noting that she had also been in touch with Dignitas, the Swiss group that aids suicides.

    In a goodbye letter to Mr. Kusch, posted on his Web site, Ms. Schardt thanked him, saying that if her death helped his battle it would fulfill her goal to have “the freedom to die in dignity.”

    To some champions of assisted suicide, Germany’s laws do not allow for enough dignity. Ludwig A. Minelli, a former journalist who runs Dignitas, noted that those assisting in a suicide had to leave the person to die alone or risk being prosecuted. In Switzerland, he said, “the helping person, as well as family members or friends, could stay with the person who has decided to leave.”

    The larger lesson of Ms. Schardt’s solitary death may have to do with the way Germany treats its old.

    “The fear of nursing homes among elderly Germans is far greater than the fear of terrorism or the fear of losing your job,” said Eugen Brysch, the director of the German Hospice Foundation. “Germany must confront this fear, because fear, as we have seen, is a terrible adviser.”

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others
    By helping Ms. Schardt end her life, and then broadcasting the result, Mr. Kusch has, in effect, hung out a shingle. A former senior government official from Hamburg, Mr. Kusch, 53, said he would help other people like her who decide of their own free will to commit suicide.

    Quite bizarre I'd say...but I think I agree even though the nursing home is scary and I would not want to be there myself, assisting someone to die that has no health issues

    is wrong. She could have done herself in, instead of having accomplice's.

    h4o

  • hamilcarr
    hamilcarr
    assisting someone to die that has no health issues is wrong.

    The question is whether or not it's a crime.

    The nuance is important: many find homosexuality wrong, but that doesn't make it a crime for them.

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others

    Canada had its own assisted suicide Doctor kevorkian, the courts said it was against the law and he served a sentence.

    Geez he has his own wiki page....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian

    http://www.finalexit.org/dr.k.html

    h4o

  • hamilcarr
    hamilcarr

    Within the context of his stand pro assisted suicide, I think Kevorkian's political aspirations are very interesting to consider. He will run as an independent and declared that "We need some honesty and sincerity instead of corrupt government in Washington."

    He's most famous though for his "dying is no crime" catchphrase. Contrary to the German case, he only advocates the right to die for the terminally ill.

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others

    Unlike this German guy who will just assist anyone, I find disturbing.

    he only advocates the right to die for the terminally ill

    Kevorkian...well some how I think if I were in the patients position with Loe Gehrig's disease or some other god awful thing my

    thoughts may be different, I can't say I would want to live through the suffering. Hard call really.

    The question is then, Is the humane or not?

    h4o

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan
    Her last words, after swallowing a deadly cocktail of the antimalaria drug chloroquine and the sedative diazepam, were “auf Wiedersehen,” Mr. Kusch recounted at a news conference on Monday.

    [...]

    In Ms. Schardt’s case, he counseled her about how to commit suicide, but did not provide or administer the drugs. He left the room after she drank the poisonous brew and returned three hours later to find her dead on her bed. He videotaped the entire process as proof that he was not an active participant.

    So, was she able to get the two drugs mentioned without a prescription? It's hard to know where the line is on what constitutes "assisted". If I publish on a website a failproof suicide cocktail comprised of easily available ingredients, am I assisting suicide? (btw, if anybody knows of any such websites that they'd like to point me to, PM me!)

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Nothing beats the collective hypocrisy and cowardice of modern post-Christian societies as regards death. We just cannot think or face it. It has to strike everybody in the back. And then be hidden away from sight. Or be "committed" alone in guilt and secrecy. This imo is one of the major flaws of modern Western civilisation (perhaps mostly post-WWII Europe, in this particular case).

    Maybe a society of people educated to contemplate their own individual death and the possibility of choosing it would be way more difficult to control?

    Personally I can feel nothing but respect for people who dare to assist others to their self-chosen death in spite of legal and social risks -- especially when they have no mediatic or political agenda in doing so.

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    It ends for everyone eventually. When the game is no longer worth playing why keep standing in the field? It is possible to die without fear and regrets rather than hanging on to a greatly diminished existence. What happened to viewing life as a journey and death as only a part of that journey?

    I don't understand why we impose on others the requirement of "pain" as the only justification for ending their journey. What about mental pain of loss of control of one's life, isolation from friends and family or loss of mobility. And how about ideals? Didn't Socrates choose to drink the poison rather than recant? Was not that choosing death? Do we not admire someone who puts their philosophy and integrity above life itself? Why is life worth quiting for integrity but not for autonomy? Somewhere along the line the quality of life diminishes to where it is not worth it. How often do people hang on to a miserable form of existence only because they are afraid of the alternative.

    I vote for choice. And I admire someone willing to buck the chagrin of a fearful society to assist a person in their choice.

    Steve Realist in search of reality

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Afterthought: the legal issue hamilcarr is insisting on is quite tricky indeed.

    In the current structure of corporate society, as soon as it becomes a "right," it is bound to become a business. Just imagine the ads...

    But if there is any"right," it is hardly arguable (especially in a self-claimed "secular" society) that choosing to die (and assisting others in such choice) cannot be deemed one.

    So it is probably bound to be depenalised although not legalised, according to a well-known hypocritical pattern (still often used for "drugs" and prostitution, or for abortion in some places) -- making room for underground business (no ads then, no control either)...

    There may be something rotten in our cherished fundamental notion of "rights," but that's another topic...

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