Letter From My Elder Brother 2 Years Ago ; My Reply to Him

by flipper 25 Replies latest jw friends

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  Locutus of Borg

  Mr Flipper . . Sounds like you and I share some of the same family members . . Reading your account made me very angry as it brought back many of the hurtful things my own brothers and father did to me. Of my three brothers, only the youngest (I am the oldest of 4) who never bought into the Kraptower came. My Father the Uber Super Critical (Hypocritical Womanizing Cheating) Elder came for the ceremony (civil ceremony in the gardens of a Bed and Breakfast) which was a shocker, but did not stay for the reception. I later learned (many years later) that the only reason he was there is because my mom told him he had two choices, go with her, or be gone when she got home.

  The rest of my family and my new wifes family saw them exactly as you described, hateful and ignorant. A fine witness.

  But, they're in a cult and I'm not.
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  BabaYaga

  Unbelievable. Yeah, so much for his communication, to ask you what happened. No trial, no jury... only a slew of judges.
  
  You handled it very well.
  
  Love,
  Baba.
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  Sunspot

  Hi Mr Flipper~

  Like JK just said---we all have them! My oldest daughter (now 45) is one of those superfine pioneer elder's wives that appears at convention programs demonstrating how to be the BEST JW ever....but her siblings ALL know her "ways" and the double life she leads. It is no secret in this family....and she has cut off all contact with everyone in the family for a few years now when she was caught in a vicious lie she perpetrated. It backfired so she changed her phone number and email so no one can get ahold of her for anything. Actually it has been quite pleasant not having her self-righteous interference to deal with LOL! As you may have seen from my recent posts here...the REST of our family is doing beautifully and getting along with each other. It has been very enjoyable.

  I guess what I am trying to say is that we do not NEED these jerks....our lives will be nice, full and happy with or without their approval.....and "without" seems to feel better in the long run. You have a lot to look forward to as a married couple....so LET HIM sail off into their fantasy paradise erf filled with nothing but other JWs..for eternity (YIKES!)

  It DOES make me feel bad that people like him feel the need to dump on such nice people like you....but then that's the nature of the JW beast isn't it?

  hugs,

  Annie
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  Eliveleth

  Mr. Flipper,

  It is hard to be separated from family. Still harder when they are so judgmental and uncaring.

  My heart is with you and Mrs. Flipper. We love you. Sometimes when we lose family, God puts

  new ones in our lives.

  Love and hugs,

  Velta and Joe
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  dawg

  His letter is a sacrilege, if I'm using the correct word. He commits blasphemy by saying you aren't serving Jehovah because you don't follow a man made religion. That's blasphemous!
  
  He's comparing two things that aren't alike, man made religious groups can not be followed yet you still could be serving God. As a matter of fact, you could be displeasing God by following certain religious groups.
  
  I think I'd ask him to be specific, ask him where you've quite serving God because you didn't realize you'd ever stopped. If he says by not being a JW you're not serving God you can then point out to him that the two are completely different things.
  
  I know he has some BS way out of this question, but I'd be interested in hearing the man blaspheme one more time.
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  Casper

  Until you choose to make that change, we will have no relationship with you.

  But a year later in September 2007 when our 80 year old mother had back surgery, he and his wife acted all loving and accepting to Mrs. Flipper and me. Are these people insane, or what ?

  Talk about "Flip-Flopping"....

  Yeah, I think it's insane, the more I read about people's experiences the more unreal it seems.

  There is no way such treatment would "EVER" make me want to go back and be apart of that confused, emotionally dead org.

  I liked your letter... You did great...!!!

  Cas
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  caliber

  Until you choose to make that change, we will have no relationship with you.

  But a year later in September 2007 when our 80 year old mother had back surgery, he and his wife acted all loving and accepting to Mrs. Flipper and me. Are these people insane, or what ?

  These quotes are showing positive advancement.. steps in the right direction.. allow for change of attitude

  and expect in your heart of hearts... you may be pleasantly reward ! ...consider it a flip with no flop to follow Flipper !

  Caliber
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  flipper

  JK- I bet your sister isn't worthy of your snot bro ! You have true and straight shooting mucus !

  NO MORE GUILT- Thanks for the phone conversation. I enjoyed it. It helps a lot.

  OTWO- Yes- My brother could have put his message across to me in a more civil manner. I was the victim of a partial " family kangaroo court.

  HOPE 4 OTHERS- You got it right. As my 83 year old witness father's life sets in the sunset - my older brother 60 yrs. old, acts like he's the family spokesman for the enire witness clan. He didtorted so many things about me that he heard - it is a JW trait. I'm glad you had a good chat with my wife.

  CALIBER- Well my parents and I are close still. They didn't buy into the BS when I fought the false allegations . And they stood behind me when my DFing was overturned by an appeal committee in 2007. In time, who knows, my brother may change - but I highly doubt it - he is an organization man through and through . He will be the last witness standing when they all desert it.

  LOTUCUS of BORG- So you have family like that too I see ? I'm sorry you went through that too. The only reason my brother was nice to me and my wife in the fall of 2007 at my mom's back operation was because my mom threatened to kick his a$$ if he wasn't ! But yes my wife found my brother to be ignorant and hateful as well, like your wife saw in your witness family.

  BABA YAGA- Thanks for the kind words. Yeah, ya gotta love my brothers lack of communication. Judge, jury, and executed on the spot. It's like verbally shoot first ; ask questions later. I wrote him what I thought was best.

  SUNSPOT- I'm glad most of your family is doing well without the self righteous sister. You are right - we don't need jerks like this in our lives- and my wife and I are quite happy without his interference. You are right. It is the nature of the JW beast to dump on nice people or anybody who disagrees with them.

  ELIVELETH- Thanks Velta for the kind words. We love you too. My wife and I feel like you are like family too. My mom and dad are nice - but my brother could jump off a cliff for all I care . At least until he changes- if ever.

  DAWG- You are right. My brother is " sacrilreligious " ! A very blasphemous person indeed ! He is such an organization man he'd never differentiate serving God apart from being in the organization . He's so damned " mind controlled ' he can't tell the difference between the length of his nose and the lies he believes from the organization !

  CASPER- Thanks Casper. I too will never go back to that organization. Why would any of us want that treatment ? It is insane and surreal how they act ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  digderidoo

  Flipper,

  When i read things like this i actually feel sorry for your brother. All he believes in is the shit the WT puts out. He obviously isn't like you who can stand up and think for themselves. He is towing the WT line and hasn't got the balls to think for himself. The WTS is so devisive when it comes to families.

  Paul
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  flipper

  DIDGEDIDROO- I too feel sorry for my brother actually . I know he is totally mind controlled. He has no sense of right and wrong and no courage to confront his own beliefs. I see your point. Peacve out, Mr. Flipper