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How do JW's arrive at 537BCE for the release of the jews by Cyrus?
by digderidoo 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Awakened at Gilead
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Awakened at Gilead
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
The Great Pyramid of Giza established 1914, so you count backward to establish all the Biblical facts as explained in Studies in the Scriptures.
Yes, it's that bad.
B the X
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Solace1998
i cant even be arsed to read what he said, but jeez what a response...
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OBVES
Anyone that denies the importance of the year 1914 AD in the end -time prophecies of the Bible denies God's salvation plan .
Otherwise I think you will not be able to explain the Book of Revelation as it can be divided into halves :
Revelation 1-11: 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD +
Revelation 12-22: 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD +
You will not be able to confirm we are in the end-time era . To do so we must have a timeline that is a copy of the times when Jesus Christ and his disciples lived and taught the true christian religion. By the virtue of the timeline we arrive at we confirm God's Bible is for our times and that the true christianity was revived after a long break since 150 AD.
Psalms 119 and 150 determine the end-phase of the ancient true christianity: 119 AD - 150 AD.
96 AD + 10 years = 106 AD - Revelation 2.10 about 10 days .
106 AD - 119 AD = 13 years 119 AD - 150 AD = 31 years 106 AD = 1991 AD or 1914 AD
1991 AD + 13 years = 2004 AD 2004 AD + 31 years = 2035 AD
1914 AD - 31 years = 1883 AD
1883 AD + 152 years = 2035 AD
The starting dates are 607 BC and 455 BC for counting 70 weeks of Daniel 9.24.
455 BC + 70 weeks leads to 36 AD.
607 BC + 70 weeks leads to 1984 AD
607 BC - 152 years = 455 BC
If we add all numerical values of the 22 - letter Hebrew alphabet we get 253 .
And the first numerical value can be omitted ( I have explained that already ).
The 252 is left that represents " 7 times ". So,we can use the numerical values of the Hebrew alphabet as in Psalm 119 to count the end times. We can set up the whole chronology of mankind using this method with others known to me.
2011 AD - 2+3+4+5+6 = 1991 AD 1991 AD - 7 times as 7 years = 1984 AD 1984 AD - 7+8+9+10 = 1950 AD 1950 AD - 11+12+13 = 1914 AD ! 14+15+16+17 = 62 years : 1883 AD - 1914 AD and 2004 AD - 2035 AD ( 2 x 31 years = 62 years ).
1884 AD + 100 years = 2004 AD ( 18+19+20+21+22 = 100 )
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bobld
Who decides these calculations.Where do they get weeks=days=years. These people calculate the precise date of 1914 however, they DO NOT know when Jesus Christ was born.Prove it in the Bible.
Bob
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megawatt
Here's the actual formula:
heads or tails x rolling dice + eeny-meeny-miny-moe = 1914
Seriously, the only reason that 1914 has any significance it just happen to be the same year as the 1st world war. End time prophecies is a joke and has been around nearly 2 thousand years and with the major american movement starting in the 1800's. If you compile a list of every jack off claiming divine inspiration with their dates in the 1800's, you'll see that every decade contains at least several predictions of the 2nd coming.
With Russell, 1914 was to be the end. During his ministry in 1894, Russell claimed these were GOD'S DATES and could not be changed, even if he wanted to. 13 years later, losing confidence in his predicitons and fearing another failed end of the world/2nd coming prophecy, he stated that he never claimed to be infallible (I thought these were God's dates?). Then came and went 1914, and pretty much everyone knows rest of the story.
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You're about 150 years too late.
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The Oracle
I find this overview of Israelite history to be very accurate.
Notice the date when Babylon destroyed Jerusalem.
The Oracle
The people of Israel (also called the "Jewish People") trace their origin to Abraham, who established the belief that there is only one God, the creator of the universe (see Old Testament). Abraham, his son Yitshak (Isaac), and grandson Jacob (Israel), are referred to as the patriarchs of the Israelites. All three patriarchs lived in the Land of Canaan, that later came to be known as the Land of Israel. They and their wives are buried in the Ma'arat HaMachpela, the Tomb of the Patriarchs, in Hebron.
The name Israel derives from the name given to Jacob (see Old Testament). His 12 sons were the kernels of 12 tribes that later developed into the Jewish nation. The name Jew derives from Yehuda (Judah) one of the 12 sons of Jacob (Reuben, Shimon, Levi, Yehuda, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Yisachar, Zevulun, Yosef, Binyamin). So, the names Israel, Israeli or Jewish refer to people of the same origin.
The descendants of Abraham crystallized into a nation at about 1300 BCE after their Exodus from Egypt under the leadership of Moses (Moshe in Hebrew). Soon after the Exodus, Moses transmitted to the people of this new emerging nation, the Torah, and the Ten Commandments. After 40 years in the Sinai desert, Moses led them to the Land of Israel, that is cited in The Bible as the land promised by G-d to the descendants of the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
The people of modern day Israel share the same language and culture shaped by the Jewish heritage and religion passed through generations starting with the founding father Abraham (ca. 1800 BCE). Thus, Jews have had continuous presence in the land of Israel for the past 3,300 years.
The rule of Israelites in the land of Israel starts with the conquests of Joshua (ca. 1250 BCE). The period from 1000-587 BCE is known as the "Period of the Kings". The most noteworthy kings were King David (1010-970 BCE), who made Jerusalem the Capital of Israel, and his son Solomon (Shlomo, 970-931 BCE), who built the first Temple in Jerusalem as prescribed in the Tanach (Old Testament).
In 587 BCE, Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar's army captured Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple, and exiled the Jews to Babylon (modern day Iraq).
The year 587 BCE marks a turning point in the history of the region. From this year onwards, the region was ruled or controlled by a succession of superpower empires of the time in the following order: Babylonian, Persian, Greek Hellenistic, Roman and Byzantine Empires, Islamic and Christian crusaders, Ottoman Empire, and the British Empire.
Foreign Empires that ruled in IsraelPeriod Empire Major Events 587 BCE Babylonian Destruction of the first Temple. 538-333 BCE Persian Return of the exiled Jews from Babylon and construction of the second Temple (520-515 BCE). 333-63 BCE Hellenistic Conquest of the region by the army of Alexander the Great (333 BCE). The Greeks generally allowed the Jews to run their state. But, during the rule of the king Antiochus IV, the Temple was desecrated. This brought about the revolt of the Maccabees, who established an independent rule. The related events are celebrated during the Hanukah holiday. 63 BCE-313 CE Roman The Roman army led by Titus conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple at 70 CE. Jewish people were then exiled and dispersed to the Diaspora. In 132, Bar Kokhba organized a revolt against Roman rule, but was killed in a battle in Bethar in Judean Hills. Subsequently the Romans decimated the Jewish community, renamed Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina and Judea as Palaestina to obliterate Jewish identification with the Land of Israel (the word Palestine, and the Arabic word Filastin originate from this Latin name).
The remaining Jewish community moved to northern towns in the Galilee. Around 200 CE the Sanhedrin was moved to Tsippori (Zippori, Sepphoris). The Head of Sanhedrin, Rabbi Yehuda HaNassi (Judah the Prince), compiled the Jewish oral law, Mishna.313-636 Byzantine 636-1099 Arab Dome of the Rock was built by Caliph Abd el-Malik on the grounds of the destroyed Jewish Temple. 1099-1291 Crusaders The crusaders came from Europe to capture the Holy Land following an appeal by Pope Urban II, and massacred the non-Christian population. Later Jewish community in Jerusalem expanded by immigration of Jews from Europe. 1291-1516 Mamluk 1516-1918 Ottoman During the reign of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent (1520-1566) the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem were rebuilt. Population of the Jewish community in Jerusalem increased. 1917-1948 British Great Britain recognized the rights of the Jewish people to establish a "national home in Palestine". Yet they greatly curtailed entry of Jewish refugees into Israel even after World War II. They split Palestine mandate into an Arab state which has become the modern day Jordan, and Israel. After the exile by the Romans, the Jewish people migrated to Europe and North Africa. In the Diaspora (scattered outside of the Land of Israel), they established rich cultural and economic lives, and contributed greatly to the societies where they lived. Yet, they continued their national attachments and prayed to return to Israel through centuries. In the first half of the 20th century there were major waves of immigration of Jews back to Israel from Arab countries and from Europe. During the British rule in Palestine, the Jewish people were subject to great violence and massacres directed by Arab civilians or forces of the neighboring Arab states. During World War II, the Nazi regime in Germany decimated about 6 million Jews creating the great tragedy of The Holocaust.
In 1948, Jewish Community in Israel under the leadership of David Ben-Gurion reestablished sovereignty over their ancient homeland. Declaration of independence of the modern State of Israel was announced on the day that the last British forces left Israel (May 14, 1948).
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digderidoo
So i am correct in saying that 537BCE can not be proved?
Paul