Steve Gordon - A Dark Tale (page 2)

Big Tex

“Once again, congratulations, new Brothers and Sisters! You are now in safe association with the happiest people on earth, always feasting on rich spiritual food and truly living in a spiritual paradise here on earth!”
Steve Gordon wondered why he felt so sad. “There must be something I am doing wrong,” he thought.

First thing I thought of after reading your dark tale was to paraphrase Matthew 26:16 -- what is a man if he loses his whole world and loses his soul.

To me the theme is ceding one's values, self-determination and self-worth to someone else and receiving nothing in return; giving up one's critical thinking and the resulting repercussions.

But I'm a stupid head so what do I know?

Chris

Nathan Natas

If you have problems, you pray. If your prayers are not answered, you are not doing enough. Remember, you can never do enough to please Jehovah.

QED, your prayers will NEVER BE ANSWERED.

Nathan Natas

There is always something that you're doing wrong!
If you doubt, it's your fault.
If you hate, it's your fault.
If you lust, it's your fault.

But if you molest a 5-year-old, it's because she "seduced" you.

Farkel

wingcommander,

I do appreciate your three hundred or so posts and your major contribitution to this board.

You said:

:Who died and made you King of the X-JWs?

Uh, where did that come from? The orifice where you eliminate? I never claimed such a thing.

: If you don't like people's replies to your threads, too f**king bad!

Obviously in your world, debates don't exist. Anyone can say anything and your answer is too f**king bad. In a world without discussion and lively debates only two things exist: autocracies and morons. Since you probably don't understand the first word, you must epitomize the last word.

Next, you seductively lead us on with your wit and charm:

: Don't post your fairy tales then.

Why not? Because twits like you don't like it that I comment on comments about my fairy tales?

:I thought maybe it was somehow related to your own story,

Then you are a worse idiot than I thought. I stated in the title of the thread that it was a "tale." If you don't know what that word means, then look it up, if you are smart enough to do that.

: but if all it was was some lame excuse for you to insult others on here, then f**k off.

One just has to wonder and smile at comments like this. This nitwit it saying that I posted a new thread for the sole purpose of me using a "lame excuse to insult others on here." Yeah. I did that. The nitwit STILL cannot muster the brainpower to understand the theme of this thread.

: I just love you people whom act like you're sooooo much smarter than everyone else.

I'm sure you "just love" me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I do not act smarter than you. I AM smarter than you. If you thought you was even hafl smart you wouldn' resort to invective and vilification. (Look it up. I'm sure you will need to do that)

:I use old english when I write colour, neighbourhood, flavour, etc.....whop-de-doo!!

That is not "old English", that is current British English. You are so ignorant, I'm starting to get a headache even writing to you.

Enjoy living in your intellectual cave.

Farkel

journey-on

Farkel,

I don’t know for sure what you are looking for, but you found a sociology lessen in online discussion communities…lol! But, regardless, let me give you my personal critique.

I enjoyed this. The style of writing puts us right there in Steve’s head. We feel the tug of war going on internally within his psyche as he struggles to push aside his natural impulses to think and reason independently. Most of us relate to that internal struggle on one level or another. He grasped at a straw and clung to that small part that resonated with him and discarded the Big Picture.

As he listens to the admonition of his PO, the words of the baptismal speaker, and other missives and directives from various elders, he suppresses his natural inclination toward reason and individuality. He accepts without audible question what these men are saying, and allows them to destroy his life right down to the smallest of free choice, his music, his books, his personal research, not to mention his own wife and children. He has slowly relinquished to others his ability to THINK, although he continues the internal struggle.

All the feel-good babble from the JW pulpit cannot relieve the deep-seated sadness that comes from knowing deep down inside that you gave up yourself, your Life, for naught. You gave up your present life for an empty promise of some uncertain future.

As I said, I’m not certain what you wanted, but I give you my reaction to this piece. Well-written, Farkel. Thanks.

nameless_one

At the risk of being called out as stupid or lacking perception, I'll share what I got out of this story:

"There must be something I am doing wrong," he thought.

I think Steve did everything wrong every step of the way, and this thought was the one thing he was right about *shrugs and slinks away*

HappyDad

To everyone who posted on this thread.....remember one thing. Farkel has written many great things here on JWD. And many of these things make a lot of sense.

But you must remember that Farkel does not take any comments, advice, or criticism.....whether that criticism be positive or other....very well!

His purpose in his after JW life is only to serve and satisfy his own ego. The rest of us are the spawn of vermin.....who eagerly wait for some crumb of intellect to fall to a place where we can feed a little. This is what keeps him going.

Farkel.......if you would show the least bit of humility instead of your lofty thoughts of your own ideas.......maybe someone would give you a bit of applause.

But then again.......some people love the illusion of being "legends in their own mind".

Your friend,

HappyDad

journey-on

nameless_one

Good point. Actually this piece, imo, has multiple layers that allow for reflection. This is as much a statement

on the writer's ability to move and persuade his reader as it is on the content of the tale itself. This writer spoke

directly to his audience...ex-jehovah's witnesses. We know what it's like to feel like we are never doing enough

to please Jehovah, aka as the WTBTS. We know what it's like to have our choice of music, art, books, etc.

scrutinized and criticized. We understand the constant push and pull against our inner self as it battles with

the external forces of "The Organization".

HappyDad.....lol.........Farkel is Farkel.

stillajwexelder

what screams out to me is "This is a cult" in every definition of the word - but most of us just never saw it that way. Steve Gordon should think "CULT" but it does not

shamus100

I always look forward to Farkels posts, but the only thing that I assosiate to farkel is his avatar and his interesting comments and incredible knowledge of the WTBTS - something that many people just plain don't have, or just plain couldn't give a shit about to go over the excruciating details over days... I let people like Farkel and others dig that menutia up.

Am I stupid? Well, that's up to debate. Anyone can be anything they want on the internet. For all you know, I could be a psychologist or some jackass working at McDonalds, living in they're parents basement. My main point is I don't give a shit if Farkel thinks I'm stupid - I think that is part of what self-actualization entails. Not caring what others think of you, because you know what makes you happy, and you know that you are comfortable in your own skin. .

Did I miss the point? I don't think I did. The truth (tm) makes you feel like a big man at first - then years later, you figure out what you've really lost. That pathetic loser in Farkels story sounds alarmingly familiar, right down to throwing out his 'demonic' albums. That person is me - and I can accept that. I was a complete f*king idiot. A pathetic needy moron who fell for a cult, because of my issues with depression and somewhat disfunctional family life. It was my only way out of my problems; the other being suicide. I know that if I didn't have fallen for 'the truth' at the time I would have probably done myself in. It was going through all that shit - the act of believing so much in something, like the person in the story above, then disbelieving and actually having the courage to leave everything I ever had in the world behind, or so it seemed at the time, which made me strong enough to deal with my problems without drugs or alcohol. And most importantly, not relying on a fictional god (in my opinion), as a crutch to go begging to. I can live my life just fine without god, without validation, and without Farkel. (insert any posters name in for Farkel, too)

Steve Gordon - A Dark Tale

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