How big of an idiot are you really? (page 2)

wednesday

well that elite family will be just horrified to find that email on this board.

VM44

What was the document you showed the elders? The one that they asked where did you get it? (Now I am asking the same thing! but for a different reason, I want a copy also!)

FreudianSlip

I wish my old JW friends called me an idiot. At least then I'd know that they thought about me from time to time.

It was a copy of two letters from the Society. The first was a 1981 response to a publisher who had asked where he could obtain a copy of Johannes Grebers New Testament. This was the bible that they admitted in 1956 was connected to demonic forces, then went on for the next 37 years quoting it to support their rendering of John 1:1 They replied the only address they had was from the inside of one of his Bibles with a print date in the 1930's. Of course this address was not valid.

The second letter was from the Society from 1980 to the Johannes Greber Foundation (the correct address) thanking them for the recent receipt of his New Testament and book "Communication with the Spirit World of God." They went on to ask for additional copies. These letters clearly showed their deception to their own members by purposely giving them a bad mailing address for Johannes Greber.

BizzyBee

How big of an idiot are you really?

How ironic that this JW gangster would ask this particular question while he reveals the magnitude of his idiocy with every word he writes. Your answers were totally reasonable, and expressed with admirable restraint.

I would wager any amount of money that his guy could not explain the JW doctrines - 1914, FDS, blood, etc., - if his life depended upon it. He has no intellectual grasp of what he so aggressively insists is "the truth."

This is interesting as a clue to an inevitable new breed of JW. The JW gangster. All pretense of a loving response is abandoned - the gloves are off and they are justified in being cruel, insulting and demeaning, empowered by the heartless example of the WTS.

SixofNine

heheh, oh the stories I know about Timmy Hamm.

No wonder he's afraid of big bad Jehovy.

tryingtounderstandjws

This gentleman, Timothy Hamm, displays some classic signs of an immature manipulator. His growth and position in the organization has probably been stunted by this character flaw of his. Unless he changes his tactics, his position will probably never get any higher than where he is currently. When you really want something and friendly persuasion doesn't work, and you resort to ugly methods, then the respect of others will usually diminish. Timothy knew you weren't coming back so he starts with the verbal assault, then gives you a combination of guilt and shame. Comments about your family only add injury to insult. Always taking the focus off the true nature of the problem. Pride is Timothy's ultimate downfall, give-a-way, and weakness. He's so blind to his faith and ideas that his ignorant pride will eventually consume him. On another note, subconsciously, he is probably also very jealous of you and your freedom to be the person you want to be and have become.

wednesday

I believe he is the youngest member of the family and the family is a part of the" Rat pack" - ie the elders /MS servants of the FB Cong.

"... They say I'm wild and I'm reckless,
I should be acting my age
I'm an impressionable child in a tumultuous world
And they say I'm at a difficult stage..."

donny

I believe he is the youngest member of the family and the family is a part of the" Rat pack" - ie the elders /MS servants of the FB Cong

Yes that is correct. He was about 13 or 14 years younger than his older brother David who was one of the elders in the FB Cong. He was somewhat "worldy" when I was in the org as many of the youth were. His brother, David, was a strange sort of elder. One time at hour home, the song "I can't get no satisfaction" by the Stones came on and he jumped up and grabbed a nearby broom and began doing his Mick Jagger imitation.

Some years after I left, his daughter was reproved for sleeping with the son of another FB elder, and later was disfellowshipped when she came out of the closet and now lives with a woman. (Oh the shame) LOL

wednesday

oh Donny tell me who that elder and his son are? lol there is karma

Oh dear God, tell me she moved in with a" sister."

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