I realize I am taking up space and your time but I appreciate it

by BonaFide 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    I understand I jump around too much in my comments. My ADD gets worse when I get nervous. Plus I know there are topics that could be more academic. Or funny.

    I just wanted to say that some days I feel like a wicked person, I feel like I hurt sisters emotionally because I tried a few things and I let them try things with me, sort of. I feel responsible and bad and deserving of punishment by the elders and the Holy Spirit.

    And then other days I feel like I missed out on having fun. One sister that I dated two years ago and we sort of messed around a little, she smiles and winks at me at the assemblies, she still calls me sometimes and laughs about it. Another sister once told me she has never tried anything because she is ugly and the brothers go for the pretty girls. She used to come to the gym where I work and we would "hang out" She also says it was worth it. But I have never gone all the way, or let anyone really do anything to me. So sometimes I feel like, hey, I missed out on trying stuff that I could have done and I am actually glad I did a few things.

    This being raised a JW, and trying so hard to do what's right but making mistakes, it really messes with your mind. You that send messages saying, "Just tell the elders to #**@&*% it" and "Just write a letter of DA", respectfully I will say to you that when your whole life and family and friends and beliefs and everything has to do with being a Witness, its almost like speaking against God himself. I still pray before every meal, when I wake up, before I sleep, and throughout the day.

    I feel like a sinner, then I feel like I am a fun guy, then I feel like a loser, then I feel like a good Witness, then I feel like a bad Witness, then after a good workout I feel like chasing girls, then I feel bad again.

  • oompa
    oompa

    You really really need to get laid....cmon....find someone you care enough about and get married if you have too.....but you have got WAY too much sexual frustration pent up....and WT rules will mess up your mind for life if you are not careful.........you are way to conflicted mate...........oompa

  • digderidoo
    digderidoo
    I will say to you that when your whole life and family and friends and beliefs and everything has to do with being a Witness, its almost like speaking against God himself. I still pray before every meal, when I wake up, before I sleep, and throughout the day.

    In time if you are anything like me, you will come to realise that you can still pray throughout the day and God will listen to you. Witnesses do not have the monopoly on God that they claim. From your previous posts i get the sense that you have had some doubts with regards to the Watchtower society.

    The problem for most of us when we first started having doubts was that we felt we were turning our back on God, when in reality we were turning our back on the Watchtower society and it's doctrines.

    Paul

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others

    I think its natural to feel confused, after all if you think about it your whole world gets shaken up
    like a salt/pepper shaker.

    A few book reads may help you to stop feeling the guilt that gets laid upon a jw for years and years...

    I think as long as you stay in the Wt dating will be a hard program...it won't get any easier to pursue
    a jw girl and have your doubts with the religion...find the peace you need first....


    hope4others

  • Awakened at Gilead
    Awakened at Gilead
    You really really need to get laid....cmon....find someone you care enough about and get married if you have too.....but you have got WAY too much sexual frustration pent up....and WT rules will mess up your mind for life if you are not careful.........you are way to conflicted mate...........oompa

    I think you got that right, oomps!

    But anyway, BF, you need to get out of the JW mindset... do your reading of "apostate material".. CoC, and ISoCF... that will help... or check out www.jwfacts.com.

    This is not the true religion it is merely a dangerous cult wasting your time... you are in your 40's, how much more time do you want to waste with your life.

    And about your JW friends and family, they need to respect the stand that a 40-something yr old takes.

    respectfully I will say to you that when your whole life and family and friends and beliefs and everything has to do with being a Witness, its almost like speaking against God himself.

    Speaking against the WT= Speaking against God... that's a classic JW brainswashing mindset.... Please get on with your exit of JWs, you will feel so much happier... I certainly do, and I don't give a sh!t what my ex-friends and my shunning family members think of me.

    A@G

  • yknot
    yknot

    ...alt

    Frankly you seem more way more damn decent then most men (JW or not) I have met...

    Forgiveness doesn't come from men, but God.

    I doubt any Sister who throws themself at you is as 'innocent' as you.

    I hope the current girlfriend brings you happiness and peace of mind.

    Stand firm, be yourself, don't let them bully you. ......

    Oh and Mustang had really good points on page 4 of the other thread!

    Sending love, support and encouragment vibes to you!

  • str8?so is spaghetti..until you heat it up
    str8?so is spaghetti..until you heat it up

    Oh Bona Fide darling I am sorry.

    Guilt is such a deadly and unworthy feeling. I have said it before and I will say it again - Sin is a social construct invented to control the masses. You've been brainwashed to believe that natural desires and actions are wrong, when in fact they are simply expressions of your very being.

    I suggest reading some of the existentialists, as they had a firm handle on the way life should really be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism

    Existentialism is a philosophical movement which posits that individuals create the meaning and essence of their lives, as opposed to it being created for them by deities or authorities or defined for them by philosophical or theological doctrines.

    Do not fear death, my friend, rather fear an unlived life.

    Much Love

    Rob

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    This being raised a JW, and trying so hard to do what's right but making mistakes, it really messes with your mind. You that send messages saying, "Just tell the elders to #**@&*% it" and "Just write a letter of DA", respectfully I will say to you that when your whole life and family and friends and beliefs and everything has to do with being a Witness, its almost like speaking against God himself. I still pray before every meal, when I wake up, before I sleep, and throughout the day...I feel like a sinner, then I feel like I am a fun guy, then I feel like a loser, then I feel like a good Witness, then I feel like a bad Witness, then after a good workout I feel like chasing girls, then I feel bad again

    The reason you feel the way you do is because you are in a cult. Use the elders' witch hunt as an excuse to your family to fade, then go out and live a real life. I still pray before meals, when I wake up, when I go to sleep and several times throughout the day, and I haven't been a jw for 20 years. Life is much better on the outside, and if you play your cards right, you very well may be able to maintain your jw family and some friends if you use Doc Bob's letter. It would probably also be a good idea to get some serious therapy.

  • yknot
    yknot

    I disagree with oompa & A@G

    I think before Bonafide jumps in the water he should dips his feet first.......orally of course

    Appetizers before the entree.......

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    BonaFide's story checks out. He would have to be doing a hell of a snow job to know the details that he PMd me today. I have verified much of the story. I am honoring his request not to share those additional details.

    So to BonaFide... I apologize for doubting your experience. I bet your MTS instructors would $hit their pants if they knew you were here...

    As I said in the PM to you...we have had our fair share of trolls, $hit-stirrers, frauds, etc..here on JWD... so when someone posts a story like yours, we are naturally cynical. Sorry about that.... Now I hope you can be a good resource to us here on the board..and in turn, I hope we can help you in your journey out of the Borg.

    I look forward to hearing from you......

    As to your personal situation...I understand all too well.

    Snakes ()

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