I realize I am taking up space and your time but I appreciate it

by BonaFide 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I feel for you and the way the cult has your feelings all messed up.

    Try reading "Your erroneous Zones" by Dr. Wayne Dyer.

  • penny2
    penny2
    I feel like a sinner, then I feel like I am a fun guy, then I feel like a loser, then I feel like a good Witness, then I feel like a bad Witness, then after a good workout I feel like chasing girls, then I feel bad again.

    BF, I sympathize - I went through similar confusion many years ago. I thought I was a bad person and would die in Armageddon. The most liberating experience was finding out the truth about "the truth" and that I was normal.

    It would be helpful if you could sort out your emotions before you got permanently involved with your current GF (ie married if that's what you are headed towards). Sort out the guilt - counselling might be helpful.

    And it's good to have you here.

    penny

  • sacolton
    sacolton
    its almost like speaking against God himself

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!! They brainwashed you.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    If you have not already done so, I would recommend reading Steve Hassan's books. The first one is called Combatting Cult Mind Control, and the second one is called Releasing the Bonds.

    These books will help you to see that you were a victim of mind control. They will help you to begin separating myth from reality.

  • LockedChaos
    LockedChaos

    I recommend getting a reality education

    Read Ray Franz books

    These will open your eyes to reality

    You can keep your faith if you choose

    You can absolutely lose the cult

    It's a difficult journey

    It can take some time

    Set you path and press forward

    Just about everyone is willing to help

    You will find more compassion here

    than you ever will find in that "group".

  • Awakened at Gilead
    Awakened at Gilead

    BonaFide's story checks out. He would have to be doing a hell of a snow job to know the details that he PMd me today. I have verified much of the story. I am honoring his request not to share those additional details.

    So to BonaFide... I apologize for doubting your experience. I bet your MTS instructors would $hit their pants if they knew you were here...

    Thanks Snakes for reconfirmimg, as I posted on the other thread I believe BF is bonafide since I have spoken to the man on the phone and also he shared many details that only an MTS or Gilead grad would know....

    He is just an extreme victim of this mindcontrol cult... it may seem weird to those of us out... but his experience is by no means unique... i too was mindf##ked for many yeasr and lived with guilt while doing nothing that is really wrong.. yet i lived with guilt for years. I know exactly where he is coming from.

    Yknot: Yes appetizers are good... and so is the main course... he needs to get beyond just reading the menu, though. The sooner the better!

    A@G

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    BonaFide, as a single guy with no wife or children, you are a prime candidate to move on. At least outside the society you will have a chance at normalcy. A good woman. A family. A life.

  • Octarine Prince
    Octarine Prince

    BonaFide has been vetted:
    His story is real;
    yes, he petted,
    and bumped and grinded
    on pioneers,
    and other little sweet Kingdom dears.

    Many who shared his belief
    say he should lie through his teeth,
    while others look down on going through the trouble
    and advise to leave those fools on the double.

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan
    I feel like a sinner, then I feel like I am a fun guy, then I feel like a loser, then I feel like a good Witness, then I feel like a bad Witness, then after a good workout I feel like chasing girls, then I feel bad again.

    It's an endless cycle. After spending hundreds of hours in Watchtower indoctrination sessions (meetings) you really can't be expected to act any other way. The Watchtower does a great job of making the lives of their members confusing and stressful. That's what I experienced in the JWs as well as many others.

    I suggest you read Crisis of Conscience. Not only is it one of the first stepping stones people take in leaving the group, but it is an excellent tool to help cope with being a JW, especially with the situation you are in.

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