Why are so many leaving? (page 4)

SnakesInTheTower

this place ebbs and flows like the tides of the sea....tides out right now... some will come back in with the tide..along with more newbies.

some who have said "good bye" have come back, some for a quick check in, others to stay awhile

others will be carried off by the stronger currents of real life...for good. That is a good thing.

If we are stuck on a discussion board still wailing on about JW issues after a long time out, then has the board really served its purpose? To become an ex-EX JW..

What is worse, to be stuck as a JW or to be stuck thinking about having been a JW?

If you are staying for the friendships that you gain, that is a positive thing. Those friendships are not tied

to the board, unlike the "friendships" in the Borg, which are tied to being in the Borg. Those newfound friends will survive, long after JWD becomes a mere cached search on Google.

I hope this board returns to the basics.... it survived Trevorgate, RRgate, and it will survive Gay-Gate/Porn-Gate.... (nothing personal against gays, no nasty PMs please)

I dont have the patience that the board owners have running this place.... thanks for keeping it running.

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AudeSapere

Since I am no longer allowed to post casual references to my relationships ("what me and my partner did last night"), while everyone else can, I don't know how I can participate in conversation.

Wow. I didn't take it that way at all. I took at the at the "what me and my partner did last night" was referring to an out-of-context hijacking for the sole purpose to state what "we" had done. It felt to me (in the build-up to the crisis) that there was an inordinate number of posts that were intruding in threads for the sole purpose of interruption.

There have been many posters thru the years who constantly refer to their partners (both hetero and homo). For the most part those comments and posts cleanly flowed with the topic of the thread and there was not much attention paid.

If the thread is about a movie, and "me and my partner also saw that movie, too" there is no conflict.

If the thread is about kittens, and "me and my partner (hetero or homo) did [insert non-kitten related sexual activity]" its a hijack and probably an offensive one at that - to a majority of posters.

It seems one of the best things that the gay community of posters can do is continue to show the normalcy of their relationships. One texas poster comes to mind. He and I even spoke on the phone once. In his posts, he very openly talked about his partner. Talked about their dinners. Griped about one or the other's parents who were needing attention and care but were critical of the 'other' partner. He talked about his children and I believe their response to his 'lifestyle'. Certainly about his congregation status resulting from living with his gay partner. All in all, this particular poster, in my opinion, presented an otherwise fairly normal, committed relationship with another adult complete with all the joys, frustrations, and disappointments.

The childish hit-and-run, or smash-and-grab behavior of the few yahoos is what has been condemned. Not their sexuality. Just the manner in which a few choose to flaunt it.

And, yes. I completely agree that this should apply to the hetero posters, too.

-Denise.

Gregor

A suggestion for those who are thinking of "leaving". I was in your shoes about 5 wks ago when I took offense and slammed out of the JWD house with no intention of going back. But, like the weenie boy I am, I did come back. Here's my perspective

Try to look at this site as the daily newspaper. I am a lifelong reader of the newspaper. As luck would have it my local paper has always been a liberal paper, most recently,( for 14 yrs.), the Portland Oregonian. You probably have not noticed but I tend to lean a wee bit to the conservative side. However, I am interested in what's going on and I can't imagine cancelling my subscription because someone wrote a letter to the editor that pissed me off. Or because a supposedly non-editorial front page 'news' article was obviously written with a bias. The stuff I read that I disagree with actually seems to stimulate my modest intellect more than reading stuff that I might have written. Of course, this site is a lot more personal than a newspaper. Makes it harder to stay above the fray. But it is the internet. We are exchanging deep feelings with people who are nothing more than a silly alias and a cute avatar. Many of them live in places like Bangladesh (sure they do). Some we like, some we don't. Bottom line, ask yourself, why did you start being a regular here in the first place? I REALLY like the idea that active JW lurkers come here. There is a lot of excellent 'food in due season' for them. It's a good site if you can take it.

uninformed

sacolton wrote:

I have to admit that the way things were going on this forum ... if my wife ever decided to start researching outside the organization - I would NEVER let her view this forum. It would scare her back into the Kingdom Hall. I'm serious!

I am really inclined to agree with you.

Brant

That's an excellent point. I think we all should consider our former friends who are trapped in the cult, and what there reaction would be here? It is a big drunken orgy? If so, then it validates what the JW tells them about "apostates". This place should be about doctrine discussion, news updates, sharing stories of JW experience, and support.

I agree with this comment too.

Brant

WTWizard

The only reasons for me to leave are computer problems (and then I intend to return once the computer is back up and running), if the board goes down, or if I get recaptured (which would not be volitional). I know there are disagreements, but I am trying to weaken and hopefully ruin the Washtowel Slaveholdery.

Dorktacular

LOL at Jimmy Page!

I was so offended at your leaving that I was gonna leave, too! But then I saw that you were back a few seconds later, so I didn't have time to leave. Man, that was a close one...

saywhat29

IM N UR THREAD!, HIJAKN' AND GAYN IT UP!

Oh girl,

Nobody's leaving this site for good. Whatever was said was said. This is a huge site, I like too many people here to let a small argument ruin stuff as is. I understood what was meant (too well) and agree with AudeSapare in that I do not think at all that we are being silenced. It's angry words just being thrown around, people are being hurt, not realizing or acknowledging it, and then throwing angry words back.

That's how fights go.

Besides, looking back through that Announcement thread, this argument has happened over-and-over again just with different topics. And the people who were in those arguments are still around so...

Yeah, I think we will be fine. I hope so

bluesbreaker59

I also feel this site is about JW issues, or ex-JW issues, and what's going on in our lives, gaining support and online "friends", nothing more, nothing less.

Twitch

The childish hit-and-run, or smash-and-grab behavior of the few yahoos is what has been condemned. Not their sexuality. Just the manner in which a few choose to flaunt it.
And, yes. I completely agree that this should apply to the hetero posters, too.

Well said.

trevor

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