by cameo-d 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
The Logos, the active agent of Jehovah God ...created Lucifer;
then the Logos would have had to create Jesus, tooThe Logos is Jesus.....
Let me see if I understand this.
The Logos is the active agent of god.
The Logos created Lucifer.
The Logos is Jesus.
Jesus created Satan/Lucifer.
Jesus and Satan are brothers.
Jesus created his own brother.
Cam.....
Jehovah God has always been...... the very first thing he created was his only begotten son whom we call Jesus.
Jesus at his fathers side, became the master worker and through him all things were created. However Jesus being a humble son of God recognizes that God created all as he himself would not be if it weren't for sky-daddy.
Thus Jesus obedient and humble took his place in God's Kingdom along side the others who are also called the sons of God as all thing in heaven and earth originate from Almighty Jehovah God.
dear yknot...
you said: "Jehovah God has always been...... the very first thing he created was his only begotten son whom we call Jesus."...
Jesus is the personification of the Father's mercy and forgiveness...do you think that the Father had to create mercy and forgiveness or was it always with Him?
love michelle
The Holy Scriptures show that the term "morning stars" refers to two mighty creatures of heaven, namely, Michael (the Logos) and Lucifer.... These two mighty creatures were brothers; both sons of God.
The Watchtower, March 1, 1932, p. 76
The Logos is Jesus.....
But the watchtower says Michael is the Logos
OK. So I understand WT says Michael is another name for Jesus
But, this still does not explain how Jesus and satan are brothers.
Does WT specialize in this kind of confusion? Or am I just thick?
I think you aren't wanting to accept that in JW-land all things are created by Jehover. Yes he begat 'Jesus/Michael/logos' and then through him created everything else....... But Jehover is still Poppy and all things are because of Poppy and Poppy is the top dog. Therefore Christ doesn't exalt himself to Poppy's level (as evil ungrateful and prideful Satan/Devil/Lucifer desired) and the logos is a son and brother as all others in heaven are.....he just happens to be the eldest and only begotten and Poppy allowed him to help make all the others but again Poppy is where they came from even if the logos did the work.
Here is another example.....each man has a father, but in a biblical sense they all have one original earthly father, Adam. Thus many men who are far removed from each other can recognize each other as 'brothers' even though they aren't in the most recent of ancestry and of different generations.............
Actually you could argue that all men are the son's of God too....... since they wouldn't exist if Poppy hadn't allowed Adam's creation.
The distinction comes when we choose to follow others over Poppy, then we become sons (disciples) of the one who was uppity enough to challenge Poppy's position as head in the first place.... the concept of disobeying Poppy comes from Satan. Thus Satan becomes the proverbial Father of those who don't follow Poppy!
