Attending WT meetings/functions

by Lee Elder 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • Lee Elder
    Lee Elder

    I've been inactive for over 4 years now but I'm still attached though - loosely.
    I will occassionally attend a meeting or portion of an assembly or convention.
    I get a mixed reception at these gatherings. Generally my experience has
    been that the larger the group, the more inclined I am to run into some who
    will give nasty looks or shun me. The smaller the gathering the better. The
    best functions I've attended have been the funerals of older JWs I have known
    for many decades. I have always felt welcome and been treated very well
    on these occassions. The bulk of attendees are much older and have mellowed
    a bit in their views and I think the occassion probably causes them to reflect
    on the nearness of their own deaths and diminished confidence in the WTS
    predictions regarding the "imminent" paradise. They don't seem to be in any
    mood to "shun" or be nasty.

    This might be an indication of a good time to approach JW family members or
    friends concerning the truth about "the truth", if that is something you feel
    you should do.

    I'm interested in knowing if others have observed this peculiarity regarding
    JWs as well.

    Lee

  • metatron
    metatron

    Yes and no, Lee

    Some Witnesses are getting burned out by their kids. I went
    to a funeral and met an old friend who used to be very zealous
    and strict. He's still faithful in meetings etc. but the fire
    has gone out. The breakdown of Witness families is taking a
    larger toll on morale than any thing else I know.

    As for old timers, most don't want to talk or think about it.
    Deep down, they know they've been scammed. It can be astounding
    to see the Watchtower offer examples of people who preached the
    nearness of the End all their lives - as if this was something
    attractive as a way of life.

    metatron

  • Skeptic
    Skeptic

    There may be other reasons for this, although I agree with your comments that older JWs have mellowed. Their experience as Witnesses has shown them that they do not need to be rabid about their faith.

    However, what you are seeing may be just the way people act at funerals. People tend to set aside long-held animosities at funerals. Family members who may not be on good terms normally are usually civil to eachother at funerals.

    Also, JW funerals are one of the few times that worldly relatives attend Witness services. JWs may not be inclined to openly shun ex-JWs at funerals as the public will notice, and this is bad publicity.

    Richard

  • Seeker4
    Seeker4

    Funny you should bring this up, as I attended a social Witness gathering this past weekend with about 100 there - most were JWs.

    I was apprehensive, as I haven't attended meetings in over two years. I was surprised to find that everyone was pretty decent to me. Had several nice conversations. Did notice that a couple of the elders I had worked closely with in the past just seemed to be tired out. Maybe it was just the day, maybe it's more. I laughed, smiled and was very friendly to everyone - in all rather the antithesis of what is supposed to happen to someone who leaves the "truth."

    S4

  • Victor_E
    Victor_E

    You said:
    This might be an indication of a good time to approach JW family members or
    friends concerning the truth about "the truth", if that is something you feel
    you should do.
    People will people now and a hundred years after we are all long gone. My take on this is that unless a person is seeking and openly searching to end their JW misery it is an act of futility to detower a JW. We outsiders have nothing to offer JWs as a viable substitute for their logical and regimented life style. My perspective on this issue is from third position, to each his own live and let live. It is far better to just love and unconditionally tolerate the people while separating their dogma that has been programmed by mama.

    “Those that try to set themselves up as keepers of absolute truth are shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” A Einstein

  • Frenchy
    Frenchy

    I haven't been to an assembly in a while but i plan to attend the next one. I go to meetings every now and then and I always get a warm reception at the hall. I plan to visit one of the neigboring halls in the near future, one where I used to give quite a few talks. I heard of some rumors there about my being df'd and I want to sort of set things straight.

  • OhHappyDay
    OhHappyDay

    Hi Lee,
    I 've just mailed u 2 translations from that Reuters Health article.

    Some years ago I was on a funeral of a 40y. old JW. She was the last daughter a JW couple had. He was/is an elder. They are JW since youth.

    When I approached the mother to tell her how sorry I felt it happened that I said something like: Remember Harmagedon is not far away.

    She looked at me furious (as I never saw before and never again)and stated: What do u know about THAT?? We are listening to that for SO many years! Well she was much older than me. She is going to the meetings till today, I never saw such an explosion again, but I feel sorry for what is inside of that poor nice Lady...

    Happy Day!

  • LB
    LB

    Last year I attended the memorial of an old friend at the hall. I had been inactive for about two years at that time. The only reason I attended was because I like the man and his children. But I never felt comfortable there. Many came up and said "it's so encouraging to see you here, I've missed you" and my reply was standard, "I missed you too, but I haven't moved you know". The older ones are always more gentle at my old hall. Less judgemental.

    I'm not going to attend any more memorials. I want to just fade away.

  • LDH
    LDH

    Lee says:

    The
    best functions I've attended have been the funerals of older JWs I have known for many decades.

    Unless, I would venture to say, these ones passed away from a lack of medical treatment--i.e., blood transfusions!

    I have it on good source (cousin) that I am now clearly labeled 'apostate.' However, this doesn't stop friends from my old cong from calling me--I ain't calling them!

    They do want the normal life more than most of us will ever know. I feel for them.

    Lisa

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Victor Wrote,

    My take on this is that unless a person is seeking and openly searching to end their JW misery it is an act of futility to detower a JW. We outsiders have nothing to offer JWs as a viable substitute for their logical and regimented life style. My perspective on this issue is from third position, to each his own live and let live. It is far better to just love and unconditionally tolerate the people while separating their dogma that has been programmed by mama.
    With small reservations I agree with this statement. I do not believe that only those who are 'openly searching to end their JW misery', should eventually be led to see the failings of the WTS.

    My own wife for example, was a very happy JW until I was able to gradually open her eyes to the doctrinal flaws of the WTS. She was not searching for a way out and often feels that she has been thrown from the ship into a life raft, pushed to sea and left with little direction in her life. All she knows at present after 45 years as an active and conditioned JW, is what she does not believe. She is having to attend to some very challenging emotions within herself at present, but she does not regret finding out the reality of what the WTS represents.

    That having been said, I do believe that many are better left where they are, firmly ensconced within the WTS, which I know may be an unpopular view among many on this board. I want to quote part of a post which I recently made on another board in answer to similar questions raised. I apologise in advance for the length of the post:

    Are all former Jehovah's Witnesses better off
    for leaving the religion?


    I suppose it depends on what you mean by being 'better off'. I was speaking with a single, seventy-two year old JW recently, who has no family to take care of her and is very frail. Her Congregation are very supportive and care for her needs. It would be cruel to even attempt to challenge here belief-system at this stage of the game, unless of course I was willing to fill the role of the JW's in her life. I suspect hundreds of thousands of JW's are caught in a similar situation as this person in one way or the other.

    My own feeling is that before one begins the process of leaving the JW's, they should make sure that they have planned for the repercussions of their exit and established a 'life' to slip into. This would require leading a 'double-life' for a while as a person plans their finances, friends, employment and belief system etc. for the day that they leave.

    Are some Jehovah's Witnesses better off being
    JWs? Conversely, might some former JWs have been
    better off remaining in the Watchtower religion?

    I hate to say admit this but yes, I think some are better off as JW's.

    Just one example that springs to mind is a young First Nations JW that I first met in the 70's. Alchoholic parents, sexually and physically abused for years, barely able to communicate, living on the streets, selling herself for dimes, unhealthily overweight, a complete no-hoper. A particularly loving JW couple took an interest in her and patiently cared for her.

    I next saw her twenty years later, now a beautiful women, married with two wonderful children of her own, confident and assured. It was hard to imagine that this was the same person. I suspect we can anticipate the answer if we were to ask her whether she is better off as a JW.

    The problem with this scenario however is that it has a verso and many of us can illustrate opposite viewpoints with as many experiences.

    The issue is complex and I feel that XJW's often wish to extract the JW from the clutches of the WTS for many reasons, not all of them healthy. Many have their own agenda and play out a scenario of personal angst and frustration on the lives of others. It is after all much more gratifying to think that we are exposing the horrors of the WTS motivated by nobility than out of a base sense of personal revenge!

    Best regards - HS

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