I have a JW friend that I ran into about a month ago from my KH. He is not going to the meetings.
I get to talk to him occasionally.
He thinks the org is ok as it goes by the bible.
What do you think is the best way to approach this?
thanks,
purps
When they say its run by imperfect men
by purplesofa 19 Replies latest jw friends
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jamiebowers
I would start by finding out why he doesn't go to meetings anymore and then expound on those reasons.
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insearchoftruth
Purps,
I hear this same logic from my wife....the JWs follow the Bible closer than any one else......I guess the only comeback I have had is when the Bible is their guide, why do they need all the WTS prepared publications, and why is there a constant change in the interpretation of a book that never changes.....
I am very interested to read the replies to this thread, thanks so much for posting it!!
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OUTLAW
Purps..Tell him I own shares in the Rand Cam Engine Corp..Then tell him who my fellow share holders are..LOL!!.....That should get the conversation going the right way..LOL!!..........
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Quirky1
Ditto to insearchof....
I hear this same logic from my wife....the JWs follow the Bible closer than any one else......I guess the only comeback I have had is when the Bible is their guide, why do they need all the WTS prepared publications, and why is there a constant change in the interpretation of a book that never changes.....
My wife says the same shit. No need to question it.
Quirky
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Meeting Junkie No More
My answer is that the Pope is imperfect as well...give the guy the same slack you give your own people...why judge others then? They are all imperfect.
Ditto about the pedophiles. If Catholics are right to quit the Catholic Church in light of the pedophile scandals, then any thinking JW is right to cut all ties to an organization that not only admits it has a list of approximately 23,000 of them in the US alone, but also "settles", albeit with a gag order, eleven(?) or so cases in California...
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leavingwt
Avoid doctrine at all costs. This will trigger the cult personality.
Steve Hassan has some great suggestions in his 2nd book, on how to get cult members to think for themselves. Once they begin doing this, they can see through the mind control.
-LWT
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purplesofa
thanks,
I just got done going with him to run an errand.
His son plays sports and he is all for that as it means a scholarship.
His wife divorced him and accused him of all sorts of stuff that
was untrue, the elders confronted him and that did not go well.
He sees mostly that people are imperfect in the organization.
I asked him how would he feel if one of his children needed a blood fraction to save their life and died before the new policy came into effect. Before these imperfect men figured it out.
He did not say anything.
He is thinking. I said some other things.
Just not going to the meetings anymore and not agreeing with some things is not the same as researching and really breaking free from WT cult thinking.
I would like to see him free from that as I can see it is keeping him torn.
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Amha·aret
He thinks the org is ok as it goes by the bible.
No not the Bible, their bible, ie NWT. Maybe if you could get him to see how they've blatantly chopped and changed the Bible to suit their teaching and you might get some where with him. Show him how they took out the [] around the inserted word "other" at Col 1:15-20 and also changed other things (see the youtube clip for more ideas). That might change his tune esp when couple with the scriptures about the woe on anyone who adds to or takes from the Scriptures.
Just another thought...
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blondie
I'm willing to bet that without asking an elder or searching through a wt publication, that he can't come up with 2 scriptures that the WTS bases their foundation beliefs on..................
...OUTLAW