Riots in Greece

by purplesofa 23 Replies latest social current

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    Waiting for a reply ...

    I could be mistaken but doesn't he live on Cyprus?

    BTS

  • Witness 007
    Witness 007

    So Burn, he was aiming for the guy and killed him with a ricochet?.......nice shooting! Steven Segal style! Not!

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    So Burn, he was aiming for the guy and killed him with a ricochet?.......nice shooting! Steven Segal style! Not!

    Maybe he was aiming for someone else in the group, wasn't it several of them? Like 30? when you have a gun you are in charge of your bullets, so you'd better be responsible with where they go. BTS

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    That said, these riots are roughly what eurosceptics expected to see, at some point, at the periphery of the euro-zone as the slow-burn effects (excuse the pun) of Europe's monetary union begin to corrode the democratic legitimacy of governments.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ambrose_evans-pritchard/blog/2008/12/10/greek_fighting_the_eurozones_weakest_link_starts_to_crack

    Greece has a relatively small population but a whopping national debt

    The current account deficit is 15pc of GDP, the eurozone’s highest by far. Indeed, the deficit ($53bn) is the sixth biggest in the world in absolute terms — quite a feat for a country of 11m people.
    Greece has a public debt of 93 per cent of GDP, well above the Maastricht limit.

    Sounds familiar.

    BTS

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hBFlGGEp5P_Xn83Bw3PLwJ020A-QD9501FFO7

    Greece: 2 policemen held in jail over teen's death

    20 hours ago

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — A court has ordered two policemen to be held in jail pending trial for a teenager's fatal shooting, which has sparked five days of rioting in Greek cities.

    One officer has been charged with murder for allegedly shooting dead 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos. The other has been charged as an accomplice to murder. No trial date has been set.

    A defense lawyer says the fatal bullet ricocheted off a wall before striking the schoolboy in the heart.

    Earlier Wednesday, protesters attacked Athens' main courthouse with firebombs during a hearing for the two officers. Riot police fired tear gas. At least two people were hurt.

    Riot police and youths also clashed in the city center during a protest by more than 10,000 people at government economic policies.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Protesters attacked Athens' main courthouse with firebombs during a hearing for police officers whose shooting of a teenager set off rioting that appeared to be tapering off Wednesday even as a general strike paralyzed the country.

    The strike shut down schools, public services, hospitals and flights, increasing pressure on the fragile conservative government of Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis.

    The police involved in the fatal shooting were testifying behind closed doors when youths hurled Molotov cocktails at the courthouse and smashed a television satellite truck. Riot police fired tear gas. At least two people were hurt.

    Riot police and youths also clashed in the city center during a demonstration by more than 10,000 people to protest the conservative government's economic policies. But outbreaks of fighting were smaller and less widespread than in previous days, an indication that the most violent nationwide unrest Greeks have seen in years may be ending.

    The demonstrations and the strike called by Greece's two largest labor unions — umbrella groups that include virtually all public-sector and many private employees — were scheduled before the riots broke out. They were fueled, however, by anger at the handling of the riots by the government, which holds a single-seat majority in the 300-member parliament.

    "This country is not being governed. The government can no longer convince anyone," senior Socialist party member Evangelos Venizelos said in Parliament. "There is no way Mr. Karamanlis can come back from this."

    The policemen's lawyer, Alexis Cougias, told reporters that a ballistics examination showed that 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos was killed by a ricochet and not a direct shot. One of the officers had claimed he had fired warning shots and did not shoot directly at the boy. That officer is charged with murder; the other is accused of acting as an accomplice.

    "Unfortunately this tragedy is the result ... of an act by the policeman to fire into the air. The bullet ricocheted, we have an entry wound from above," Cougias told reporters outside the courthouse. "It proves irrefutably that it was a ricochet."

    He said the ballistics report was not yet complete but said he had been informed of its contents by authorities. There was no comment from prosecutors, who do not make public statements on pending cases.

    Karamanlis' government has faced growing opposition over changes to the country's pension system, privatization and the loosening of state control of higher education, which many students oppose because they feel it will undermine their degrees.

    The government's support dropped lower as gangs of youths marauded through cities across the country, torching businesses, looting shops and setting up burning barricades across streets.

    The clashes in central Athens escalated into running battles through the city center, with masked youths pelting police with rocks, bottles and blocks of marble smashed from the Athens metro station entrance. The youths shattered windows newly replaced after four nights of rioting.

    "The government wanted us to postpone this protest, but they are the ones who have to do something to stop this violence and to improve the quality of our lives," said one demonstrator, drama student Kalypso Synenoglou.

    High-school students chanting "Cops! Pigs! Murderers!" clapped and cheered each time a riot policeman was hit by a rock. At least one person was hurt.

    Clashes also broke out during demonstrations in the northern cities of Thessaloniki and Kavala.

    Storeowners have accused authorities of leaving their businesses unprotected as rioters smashed and burned their way through popular shopping districts. Although police have responded when attacked by rock- and Molotov cocktail-throwing protesters, they held back when youths turned against buildings and cars.

    But Karamanlis has ignored mounting calls for him to resign and call early elections.

    An opinion poll for the conservative daily Kathimerini published Wednesday found 68 percent of Greece believe the government mishandled the crisis — including nearly half of respondents who voted for Karamanlis' conservative party in general elections last year. Only 18 percent approved.

    The Public Issues survey was based on a sample of 478 people questioned Monday and Tuesday and had a 4.5 percent margin of error.

    Greece has a long legacy of activism; it was a student uprising that eventually brought down a seven-year military junta in 1974. Tensions persist between the security establishment and a phalanx of deeply entrenched leftist groups that often protest globalization and U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East and elsewhere.

    The groups have now evolved into various mainly youth factions that claim to fight trends ranging from globalization to police surveillance cameras. Their impact is usually limited to graffiti and late-night firebomb attacks on targets such as stores and cash machines.

    Amnesty International accused Greek police of heavy-handed tactics against protesters, saying police "engaged in punitive violence against peaceful demonstrators" instead of focusing on rioters.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    This looks a lot like what happened in France a couple of years ago.

    BTS

  • Witness 007
    Witness 007

    Poor Police officers! It must have been terrifying being surrounded by those youths...thinking your going to die..where the hell is your back up...terrifying....feel bad for the cops just doing their job.....you don't know the pressure, the adreniline, the tunnel vision, when the heat is on, and you surrounded.

  • Witness 007
    Witness 007

    That 15 year old should have been at home on his Playstation 3 not chasing Cops with his gang.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    witness007

    You seem make assumptions of what you assume other people think and feel.

    and do very little to check out facts.

    purps

  • scotsman
    scotsman
    Riots in Iceland, now in Greece. Hundreds killed in India. Seems like the planet is getting thrown into an uproar lately. It is going to be a bumpy ride for a while.

    Sheesh, there's some marches in 2 Western countries and a bomb that affects white people in Mumbai and the planet's in an uproar??? I thought you'd be better informed BTS.

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