Is Watchtower Leadership Burnt Out and UnMotivated?

by metatron 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I have noticed that just about everything they put out lately is about cutting the members off from outside sources. No independent Bible study. The washtowel articles are loosely based on scriptures taken out of context, and they do not like people reading the whole block of the scripture. Comments that are off base are no longer tolerated (when I was in, they would be tolerated and could be brought back on topic. Now, they have zero tolerance.). Even the field circus is dumbed down--absolutely no intelligence to go to the door, tell the householder "We are placing this waste of paper with you and your neighbors" and "This is part of a worldwide pedophile defense work supported by voluntary donations:.

  • hillbilly
    hillbilly

    It's hard to be lean, mean, dynamic and shift pardigms if your asleep and need to change your adult diaper.

    tapioca anyone?

    Hill

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    The society has determined that the r&f are a liability.

    The big question that the lawyers are asking is: "how do we lose the religion but keep the money and property?"

    I doubt that the any decision can be made without the input of the lawyers. From personal experience I can tell you that that is no fun.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    How many different ways can you cook grits before you tire of the sameness and toss, grits, seasoning, pot, water, and leave the younguns to fend for themselves?

    Sylvia

  • Witness 007
    Witness 007

    It's like having the residence of an Old folks home run a kindergarden!

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    We need an infiltrator to provide substantial information. Mwaaa, ha, ha!!

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    Facts about the organization: They have no new ideas. Everything they have to talk about is old, dull, boring, and unexciting. Thus, no "trend material." Now, if they were of a more traditional faith, and with less of their doctrine emphasizing WORKS, then this wouldn't so much a problem. People could worship at THEIR pace, and coast along comfortably with their OWN relationship with God. But with the Witnesses, every day is a campaign against the world. It demands extraordinary energy from adherents, but there's nothing to fuel the fire. This is why JWs cling to the most absurd motivations, like whether Prince is really a JW, or whatever Obama has said about religion, or what some UN employee supposedly once said.

    The biggest problem the organization is facing and will continue to face is legitimacy in a "flat" world (to borrow a phrase from Thomas Friedman). Everything they have to offer in the way of doctrine, faith, and lifestyle is old, out of date, and out of style. It's agonizingly Western, in that campy sort of way. For Africans, Asians, and a few other ends of the earth, it might sound new and exciting, but for everyone else, its origins, methods, and message seem embarrassingly antiquated. When it comes down to it, I seriously don't think this religion can survive in modern society by looking down on the methods in which that society communicates (internet, texting, etc.) and educates.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    I used to think they were hopelessly mired in the '50's.

    Now, I know they are.

    LOL

    Sylvia

  • metatron
    metatron

    What matters most to me is the drain on them that the congregations create and how tired of it they are. Seeing them cut meetings is like watching the Russians walk out of Eastern Europe. After some point, it just costs more than it's worth.

    Contrary-wise, you probably have numbskulls like Loesch digging in his heels about change. Keep the C.O.'s, keep the pioneer hours, keep the trashy Awake, etc. Good Luck with that.

    metatron

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    I've thought for some time that I was watching a dead religion. There's an ole guy with a little stand in front of Macy's here in Seattle. He stands there and waves Watchtowers and Awake's at people, who walk by ignoring him. I've seen people standing next to buildings holding up the magazines and gossiping with each other. I wondered for awhile if they actually think some one is going to walk up and ask for a Watchtower. Now I think they don't care. They're getting their time in, nothing else matters.

    It is clear that nothing really matters at the top either. They are incapable of moving with the times so they just keep doing what they always did, not matter how ineffective it is.

    From time to time a find a magazine on a bus or something. I haven't seen a new thought in one for ten or fifteen years, which tells me the GB haven't had a thought at all in the time frame.

    One wonders if the whole thing is just going to wind down and be done.

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