by AllTimeJeff 81 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Toward the end of the class, there is a "shredding" party that would make Nixon proud. Everyone has to turn in their binders, it is loaded into carts and taken into the Patterson basement, next to a garage, where we gleefully shred every bit of the schedule, and all of the tests. YHWH knows they don't want that crap getting out.
Wow! Talk about blatant duplicity!
Very interesting story! So how did you get out of africa...how did everything turn out?
I left Africa after 6 months. I was attacked twice in a 4 day span and almost killed. I developed single event PTSD from this and lost about 40 lbs. If I had stayed, I would have died. I couldn't stay. The Service Dept sent a fairy nice letter, comparing my experiences to Pauls. (although I was left with the underlying impression that what they were saying was "Paul stayed, you are leaving") Nonetheless, we had to pay for our ticket back, where when I got back, after recuperating a bit, I left my ex and started over. Today, I am remarried and am in much better shape, although I still suffer from anxiety. It is getting better.
We have already traced the preliminary work done on behalf of the "other sheep" down to 1935, including those particular "sheep" pictured by the prodigal son who had wasted earlier opportunities of serving Jehovah. What has been done since then? In order to appreciate this we must be careful to look at the original prophetic pattern of Elijah in its entirety. This brings into the picture another prophet, though this did not indicate any fault or failure on Elijah’s part.
This kind of gobbledy-gook used to impress me a great deal........this, of course, was when good old 1935 was the definite "cut off" for the calling of the 144,000. Now, I am sure, the G.B. would rather the rank and file not read words like this, so don't encourage the studying of older publications.
Freddy really had a way with words, didn't he? I used to read and re-read WT articles, thinking that I was "immature" because alot of it did not make sense to me......
Wow, and they made you buy tickets back, after such trauma? Thats terrible! I know a brother who was sent to Asia and borrowed money from the society to get back due to health problems....they harrased him like a collection agency.
Everytime I think I know all there is to know about this sham of a cult, I read things like this:
The one I refer to the most is as an answer to one of the questions on a Gilead test, Elijah prophetically pointed to Judge Rutherford, Elisha pointed to N H Knorr. That is my favorite, that is when I realized I was mislead. But to be fair, JW's teach that most all of these characters refer to the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Governing Body. (GB)
and this:
As the video brought out, each student gets a loaded 3 ring binder with the schedules, tests, and homework. Toward the end of the class, there is a "shredding" party that would make Nixon proud. Everyone has to turn in their binders, it is loaded into carts and taken into the Patterson basement, next to a garage, where we gleefully shred every bit of the schedule, and all of the tests. YHWH knows they don't want that crap getting out.
Wow. Just wow. I could fill several books with the volumes of information that I did not know PRIOR to joining this group or as part of the rank and file. Yes, they truly must save these nuttier teachings for those who have 'excelled in maturity' = become living drones. I never understood the concept of the WTS heirarchy giving only certain ones access to 'special knowledge' - ie, pioneer school, MTS, Gilead training. I mean if its ALL truth and scripturally based, why not teach it during the book study or better yet, the public talks. What parts of the bible are for some special ones, but not for others? Where is the precept in the Bible for this type of structuring of information or who gets special access to this special knowledge?
I can't imagine how some R & F would react to knowing these things, on the other hand I can imagine how some other witness would, probably say something like... " Oh joyous day, look how the SLAVE has provided this wonderful spiritual food for us!"
ATJ...Thank you so much for sharing this information and this is also going into my favorites. I will need these kinds of facts since I'm seriously contemplating disassociating myself from this group. This fade is not working and I cannot continue to look people in the eye having them think I believe all of the crap the WTS teaches or questioning why I no longer attend meetings. Your Africa experience is really enlightening also; I wholeheartedly agree that the only ones that buy into this group as adults ( not born ins) are ones that lack access to this kind of information.
ATJ said........"As far as the tests, most of the information is actually in the WT library, believe it or not, as the article I posted demonstrates. Some of the crap is in books that are no longer on WT library for obvious reasons".......ATJ, is any of this on the Watchtower cd library?......In which "old books" can we find any of this information?.....Thanks.....Hubert
Bumping up for an old/new friend. :)
Hey JEFF! How've you been?
Trying to live. :) I'm still learning that little trick.
no more gilead now.
