We The Poor- by Arundhati Roy

by frankiespeakin 11 Replies latest social current

  • frankiespeakin
  • frankiespeakin
  • eyeslice
    eyeslice

    I am a great admirer of Arandhati Roy. I have read her one and only novel, the God of Small Things, and found it an tremedous work of fiction.

    I am slightly worried by her extremist views. She seems to blame all of the current problems in the world on the greed of the USA!

    I used to live a few blocks away from her when I lived in New Delhi and although she rightly draws attention to the fact that the gap between rich and poor is widening, we lived in the most affluent and well off part of Delhi - so I am not sure where the title 'We the poor' comes from. I was a witness at the time and found it very hard to justify my wealth compared with the average brothers and sisters in the congregation. I fear that justice for the poor and equality are just a dream,

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Eye,

    I think she is very practical ande enlightening. I like what she says about not leting any political party to use her for endorsements. She flatly refuses to recomend who to vote for.

    Talk - Arundhati Roy and David Barsamian - Seattle 2004:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQvq3bxt8Fs&NR=1

  • frankiespeakin
  • quietlyleaving
    quietlyleaving

    my computer won't let me access any of your embeddings - all I get is red crosses. Never mind I can always look them up separately.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    21st Century Market Capitalism American Style?

    I watched the first video and I can agree with much of what she says.

    I have been advocating Isolationism for the US, since I entered the work force back in 72.

    I have lost 3 jobs to globalization.

    And because I was a witness, I never should have had a job, I should have had a career, but you need and education for a career.

    Anyways. As I see it the multinational corporations have taken over the US government and use the US military to enforce globalism on the world. Which helps destroy the US economy and is why we are where we are today along with having an idiot in the white house for the past 8 years.

    But to be fair to the idiot, Clinton signed Nafta into law, So we are getting tag teamed from both sides.

    Clinton was more palatable to my taste. I prefer pot heads to coke heads they are more mellow.

    Talking about Globalism is kind of like talking about getting the horse back into the barn when the barndoor has been open for 30 years and the horse is nowhere around.

    Globalism seems to be the road we are on until the next cataclysm, maybe 2012?

    I have never heard anything good about communism.

    But I havent heard much good about capitalism either, especially as it has been playing out in the last 20 years.

    So I guess were screwed.

    Seems like an opening for a religious cult to see a need a fill it.

    Oh, thats already been done, thats why I am here on this board.

    I got no answers, this is just my late night ice house influenced comment.

    I buy lottery tickets thats my only hope to escape plus the clock I'm getting old.

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate

    Facts are facts.

    Mammon worshippers on the rise.

    Love of violence on the rise.

    Love of self on the rise.

    Poverty on the rise.

    Discontent on the rise.

    What comes next has been foretold.

    BA- Put your faith, not in riches or mankind, but in God, and His Son, Jesus Christ.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    If by chance you are correct Brother Apostate.

    I will guess the date is 2012.

    Maybe there is a God as you envision.

    Or maybe Nibiru comes around every 6000 or so years.

    And thats how long it takes man to get back up to where he is today.

    Man has been waring through out history.

    And the rich have been exploiting the peons since the begining.

    Its just that there is now a middle class observing and about to be eliminated with the peons.

    If you believe in the bible aren't you scheduled for a rapture soon before all the good stuff starts?

    If all you Christians disappear and the government says the aliens got you, I am going to buy the left behind series for instructions on how to survive the tribulation and convert.

    In fact I should buy a copy from the used book store and put it on my shelf as an insurance policy.

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate
    Man has been waring through out history.

    Yep.

    And the rich have been exploiting the peons since the begining.

    Correct again.

    Its just that there is now a middle class observing and about to be eliminated with the peons.

    The "middle class" is a political construct that has also existed since the beginnning.

    If you believe in the bible aren't you scheduled for a rapture soon before all the good stuff starts?

    Nope, at least not the way I read it:

    John 17:15 "I pray NOT that thou shouldest TAKE THEM OUT OF THE WORLD, but that thou should keep them from evil."

    John 17:20 - Neither pray I for these alone but for them also which shall believe on me through their word.

    Matthew 24:37-41 - But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days that were before the flood, THEY were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark. And THEY knew not until the flood came and took THEM ALL AWAY; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.

    Matthew 13:47-50 Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a net that was cast into the sea and gathered of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but THREW THE BAD AWAY. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and SEVER THE WICKED from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire...

    I Thessalonians 5:3 - For when THEY shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction shall come upon THEM...and they shall not escape.

    Matthew 24:21,22 and Mark 13:19,20 - For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved; but for THE ELECT's sake whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

    Proverbs 2:21, 22 For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall REMAIN in it, but THE WICKED shall be cut off from the earth and the transgressors shall be rooted OUT of it.

    Psalm 145:20 The Lord preserveth ALL that love him; but ALL THE WICKED He will destroy.

    Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall NEVER be REMOVED;

    Psalm 119:119 All THE WICKED of the earth you discard like dross.

    Isaiah 5:24 and 29:5 The flame consumeth the chaff.

    Job 21:18 THEY are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth AWAY.

    Malachi 4:1 For behold the day cometh...and all that do WICKEDLY, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up...

    Psalm 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein FOREVER.

    Psalm 37:9-11 For evildoers shall be cut off; but those that wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth.

    Isaiah 13:9 - Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger...and He shall destroy the sinners thereof OUT of it.

    Psalm 104:35 - Let the sinners be consumed OUT OF THE EARTH, and let the wicked be no more.

    Jude 1:5-10 - Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them.

    Revelation 3:12 - Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.

    Revelation 21:1 - Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

    Revelation 21:2 - I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

    BA- Think about it.

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