Noah and the flood

by Iwonder17 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • FreeWilly
    FreeWilly

    Oh Brother, Do you really believe the mountains did not exist 5000 years ago? You do realize that for water to "cover the earth" there could be no mountains - right? And when Noah landed his boat in Africa ALL of the kangaroos, wombats, and Tasmanian devils built another boat and made their way to Australia. None were left behind in Africa - right? And of the 300,000 species of Beatles, presumably only a handful made it on the Ark then afterward began a massive evolutionary explosion to create 300,000 species again. The fossil record bears this out - right?

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    The writer(s) of the Flood legend thought that it was long enough in the past that they didn't
    have to figure out anything about if that was enough time. It was over a thousand years back.

    They also had no clue how many animals existed. Certainly they didn't know of marsupials
    and animals native to only isolated islands. They were clueless as to how many insects
    there were. Don't even ask what they knew of fresh vs. salt water. They just figured to
    say the ark was REALLY BIG and it could be done. I doubt they even thought about a future
    generation analyzing it to death. They probably didn't expect it to go beyond the stage of
    mythology- similar to Cupid's arrows or Achille's heel.

  • inkling
    inkling
    http://www.creationresearch.org

    And thank you hoobrus, and BA, for your drive by posting.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    this is what I think.

    If you want the flood to be true you can google all night long and find compelling arguments.

    And if you want the flood to be fantasy, you can google all night long and find compelling arguments.

    So its going to have to be a personal decison on your journey to enlightenment.

    And if you keep score, i kind of think after the dust settles the score will be 50, 50 and you will hold the tie breaker vote in your life.

  • hooberus
    hooberus
    http://www.creationresearch.org

    And thank you hoobrus, and BA, for your drive by posting.

    And, thank you for yours.

  • inkling
    inkling
    And thank you hoobrus, and BA, for your drive by posting.

    And, thank you for yours.

    Touche.

    Seriously though, when you post links to videos or webpages of the Kent Hovind sort, and then
    watch the rebuttal videos showing just how massively (and demonstratively) wrong many of his
    specific claims are, what is your reaction?

    [inkling]

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate
    Kent Hovind rocks! He's a lot of fun to listen to, and it's fun to imagine a world like the Flintstones when man and dinosaur lived together. Of course, what he claims is total bat-sh*t crazy pseudo-science nonsense, but that's what makes his lectures fun!

    A response (continued in many parts):

    That's the best you've got?

    Lol.

    So the fact that Kent has a crackpot theory or two negates the rest of his presentation?

    How disingenuous.

    Look, the bottom line is that there are as many crackpot theories proposed by many evolutionists (probably many more, actually), as there are by many creationists.

    Very few creationists EVER subscribed to crackpot theories such as the one mentioned in the video, I know I have never met anyone amongst hundreds of other creationists who got more than chuckle at such lunacy.

    But how many evolutionists got rabidly fired up by these insanely stupid theories, finds, frauds, and hoaxes?

    http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_Evolution_and_Cases_of_Fraud,_Hoaxes_and_Speculation

    http://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/03-30-03PM_EvolutionIsAHoax.htm

    http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/chapter9.php

    http://fellowshipinhislove.com/index36.html

    Here's some highlights;

    Ernst Haeckel and his doctored "embryos" that were all the rage until they were exposed as a complete fraud?

    ROFL!!!!!!!!

    Piltdown Man: An Orang-utan Jaw and a Human Skull!

    LMAO!!!

    Nebraska Man: A Single Pig Tooth

    The Nebraska man (also called Hesperopithecus haroldcookii) was a case of speculation. Nebraska man was promoted based on the find of a single peccary-like tooth (wild pig-like tooth). Dr. Henry Fairfield Osborn, head of the Department of Palaeontology at New York’s American Museum of Natural History, wrote the following in the press concerning Williams Jenning Bryan:

    “The earth spoke to Bryan from his own state of Nebraska. The Hesperopithecus tooth is like the still, small voice. Its sound is by no means easy to hear... This little tooth speaks volumes of truth, in that it affords evidence of man’s descent from the ape."

    MUHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Australopithecus : An Ape Species

    Homo Habilis: The Ape that was Presented as Human

    Homo Habilis: Another Extinct Ape

    And, of coures HUNDREDS more, fakes, frauds and insane theories and suppositions!!!!!!!!!

    Then there's poor Ota Benga: The African Native Put Into a Cage!

    And more on "Neanderthal men":

    http://www.icr.org/article/4306/

    BA- You evolutionists sure are a gullible lot!

    PS- Micro-evolution is the ONLY observable and factual part of the "evolution game", and creationists KNOW it. MACRO-EVOLUTION is IMAGINARY, FALSE "SCIENCE".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hV-rqCDhew

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate
    Where did Noah put the insect species and plants and seeds

    The Bible doesn't state that every kind of seed or insect was taken on the Ark. But, if they were, these don't take up a lot of room, also, "species" is a modern classification system- species micro-evolved from "kinds", the Biblical term- from one sparrow, all the "species" of sparrows, from one raptor, all the "species" of raptors, etc, etc, etc.

    and where did the dove get the olive branch from....

    Do I really need to answer that or are you really that dense?

    the questions are endless....

    And should be, just as in the case of the fairy-tale theory of gullibillity evolution

    and yes the continents including Australia all broke off in just 5 thousand years!!

    Some creationists (Young Earth Creationists) hold the creative days to be 1,000 years each. Others see the creative days as a "period of time". In any case, radio carbon dating is just another imaginary hoax that bears no resemblance to reality, so who knows? http://www.fountainmagazine.com/articles.php?SIN=4d29c33e6e&k=375&608332006&show=part1 http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c007.html http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ22.html One of the creationist explanations for continental drift and it's cause being the flood can be found here: http://www.icr.org/article/4307/ Excerpt: "A longstanding conundrum for long-age geology thinking is summed up by Purdue University Professor Eric Calais: “When we calculate the forces available from plate tectonics, we find that they are not large enough to do the job [of spreading continents apart].” 1 But he is hopeful that his latest observations will help resolve this issue...But if this fault has been active only since the completion of the Flood—a matter of thousands (rather than millions) of years ago—one would reasonably expect to see the evidence of the small amount of plate friction history that this region reveals. Geophysicist John Baumgardner has developed a model of tectonic plate movement that is incompatible with long-age processes, but is compatible with physics and also answers the fundamental dilemma of how that much mass was moved. With gravity as the main driving force, the continental crust seems to have undergone rapid, runaway motion from its originally created position as a consequence of the earth-destroying Flood. 3 So dyking, though an interesting phenomenon, is entirely incapable of explaining continental movement. It would require an event on the scale of a global Flood, one “whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.” 4"

    Dumb!

    Perhaps you should stop looking in the glare of your monitor whilst typing! BA- Silly, gullible macro-evolutionists!

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    The story of Noah is one of the most ignorant fairy tales in a book chock FULL of ignorant fairy tales! The only one that even COMPARES is the story of Jonah...

  • hooberus
    hooberus
    And thank you hoobrus, and BA, for your drive by posting.

    And, thank you for yours.

    Touche.

    Seriously though, when you post links to videos or webpages of the Kent Hovind sort, and then
    watch the rebuttal videos showing just how massively (and demonstratively) wrong many of his
    specific claims are, what is your reaction?

    [inkling]

    The only thing I posted was a link to the Creation Research Society.

    http://www.creationresearch.org

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