I know I'm a dissenter, but a lot of Deadwood's profanity and filth are gratuitous; apart from the profanity, I find the language stilted and contrived; I'm no expert, but I think "The Unforgiven" and "Lonesome Dove" more accurately capture the vernacular of the time.
Deadwood anyone?
by beksbks 51 Replies latest social entertainment
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BurnTheShips
I haven't seen Deadwood, but I found HBO Rome's swearing to be very creative. If Deadwood is so good, I will probably have to snag Season 1 and see what it is all about. I love Westerns to begin with.
BTS
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Dagney
The cursing really did put me off at first...so over the top. But the characters are so interesting, (now even more since it is rerunning on HBO now since I know what is going on better), I try to "not hear it."
This is a role of a lifetime for McShane...what a complex character....wowweewowwee!! The subleties are amazing with him. Just wow.
I got my info on the swearing from the commentary from the originator of the series.
Either way, if you can stand the cursing, (not for the faint of heart), and in true HBO fashion, unbelievable graphic scenes at times, and you enjoy very complex characters and intriguing story lines, I really recommend Deadwood.
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beksbks
I f*^%in' love it! Awesome characters. As I told a friend, it certainly doesn't make me pine for the good old days. Being a kind of history buff, of course I've watched the extras and read up on some of the history. Deadwood wasn't like the old west in general Hill, it was utterly lawless. Looks like only the roughest of the rough went there. The land had been given to the Indians, until gold was discovered. So the camp was illegal from the start. I won't say much else, because anyone who is slightly interested should see it unfold for themselves.
What's all the worry with words anyway? Honestly, they are nothing, just words. It's the intention of the speaker that counts. As Nathan's article points out. In order for the words to have the same impact of the time, they had to be modernized.
Wimps.
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Dagney
I agree Beks!
You and I really live in the west...and it has a colorful history. Especially, when there is gold. Life was cheap, women and immigrants were nothing...yet some found ways to build something out of nothing.
But Deadwood was truly unique...interesting how Sweringen (sp??) evolves don't you think?
I was going to tell Burns, the dialogue is very creative, I think you will enjoy it.
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hillbilly
Pretty familiar with Deadwood...
Words are words... but as you say... the script writers for Deadwood had to alter the script to reflect what modern foul mouths can understand.
Read the journals of the 1800's... newpapers, court transcripts, letters... folks up to the late 30's had a much better grasp of english than most do today.
Face it...HBO just wouldnt get an audience if the F bomb didnt drop every other word or so. I find it a sad comentary on the state of our modern society when we expect crude articulation in all quarters.
Hill
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BurnTheShips
Pretty familiar with Deadwood...
Words are words... but as you say... the script writers for Deadwood had to alter the script to reflect what modern foul mouths can understand.
Read the journals of the 1800's... newpapers, court transcripts, letters... folks up to the late 30's had a much better grasp of english than most do today.
Face it...HBO just wouldnt get an audience if the F bomb didnt drop every other word or so. I find it a sad comentary on the state of our modern society when we expect crude articulation in all quarters.
Painfully true.
BTS
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undercover
I find it a sad comentary on the state of our modern society when we expect crude articulation in all quarters.
Fuckin' A
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hillbilly
Undercover... when you went to the crib to poke a whore did she have an oilskin drapped across the foot of her cot?
After all... she was done with ya before you got your boots off.
Hill
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undercover
I usually just leave 'em on...
Ya never know when you might have to leave in a hurry...
(things I've learrned from Deadwood)