Danger found on JWD!!!...........

by oompa 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • oompa
    oompa

    Yeah I know….so I like "Introductions That Arouse Interests" on my subject lines! But the Danger is at the end of this post, not the beginning. This is actually a very serious thread for oompa… and not my first, but I apologize in advance for it being the longest I have ever posted. Of course I know many won't read it...maybe because I cut up a lot here on JWD, but I have found that it is how I cope...at least partly....with with the many stresses caused by my abrupt and painful Wake-Up to reality. The reality that I had been lied to my entire life of 45 years in this religion…as had my three previous generations since my Great Grandpa bought in in 1919. I had doubted for so many years, but of course even when I asked my Dad and other Elders about them…I was told to just “wait on Jehovah”… and so I would just store them away... on the dusty shelf in the back of my mind

    But then the shelf became full…it could not hold anymore doubts…so I was forced to confront them head on. What did this require?....it required something I had never done before. You see…when you are raised from birth being told you are part of the only group in the world that knows the “truth” of the Bible.. and that we are the only ones on earth that God approves of…and that He shares these truth directly with the wise men who lead us…the way in which you study the Bible is very different. Very different from those in other religions or those who have never been religious.

    Since you KNOW it is the “truth”….then when you study…there is really no need to question anything…because since you know it is the “truth”…then everything you read and study automatically confirms everything you have been taught….the wonderful “truths” that you are so glad you know. Oh how incredible to have the “truth!”…nice and easy on the mind except for all the meetings and field service……but since we had the “truth”…it was no big deal to spend all that time in what is for some reason called “worshiping Jehovah”….because our reward for doing so would give us a lot more time!.....”life everlasting in paradise surrounded only by our loving brothers and sisters"…and hey,we may even be naked.

    But when you face your shelf full of doubts head on…strange things happen. You actually start to study with a mind open to the thought…”hmmm…what if this really is not the truth?” Once that happened to me…I was able to study the Bible with NO PRE-CONCIEVED NOTIONS!!…of course I had never needed to do that before…since I had the “truth.” I could now ask serious questions, and research them with a desire to find the ACTUAL ANSWERS….rather than just to reaffirm my already known “truths.”

    I at first researched using ONLY Watchtower source material like a good Witness. In fact, after a year of doing this intently…obsessively actually….I had enough concerns to meet with my CO…and then after the shock that the CO laid on me confirming one of big doubts, I wrote the Society. Well of course the info I sent in was so complete (very long letter)…that they were forced to agree with some of my well studied research…but also blatantly lie about the rest…so blatant in fact…that they sent their reply not to ME…but my local elders to READ to me…not even let me see…and not give me a copy!!...so now it got spooky…strange...weird...with so many layers of deceit going on that is was like the Bourne Identity. They even told me the reason they could not give me the letter was because of fear it could be used by Apostates!!...well I pretty much said how the Hell could they do that if it is the “truth” about our Bible??...they were silent. Funny, but the odd way it was all handled only reassured me that this Organization was NOT the truth.

    So I crashed very hard. For me... it was no longer the “truth”…my lifelong dream shattered…the rest of my family still dreaming the dream…and so I pretty much I became an angry raging apostate for a year… and made my wonderful but hardcore JW wife cry every week…I sooo regret that, as everyone should be entitled to their own beliefs!! Avoid doing that to ones you love if any are still reading this. And I drank a lot...self-medicated…and went to shrinks…and was on more meds that you would ever believe…because my wife insisted I was nuts and had turned me into the elders for being here…but thank GOD! (oops..I mean JWD!)……for finding this lifeline!

    JWD did not fix my problems…or change my behavior much…but it was a lifeline…a true support group…not an evil apostate site….and I have clung to it…lived here...some here would say far too much...as you can see from my numerous posts, but hey…I have already admitted to being obsessive. The truth is, when you lose nearly all your friends…and your family will no longer discuss anything religious…even though they are the things that really trouble you (isn’t that funny…I just realized I have always been able to go to my Parents with ANYTHING that bothered me…but not this). When you are in that situation...and oh how many I have seen like that here....then you REALLY need someone to talk to. You need friends who understand what you may be going through…and I found them on JWD...and nowhere else.

    What is incredible is that nobody on JWD starts out being your friend…they are total strangers…but they know that you may be hurting in ways that no other group of people can even imagine…or understand. And what do they immediately start to do?...they listen and try to help…they care for you because they themselves may have been here before once in tears… while typing their heart out…and total strangers held them and comforted them. Total strangers would provide answers to your questions…or confirm what you have already discovered…and it makes you start to not feel like such a FREAK…you are not crazy after all. That is what I love about finding JWD.

    THE DANGER ON JWD

    The danger is that being here can be so comforting…that as you heal…and get better…it can also become a helluva lot of fun! And of course you will become concerned with others here that you now want to help. Before you know it you spend so much time here that you may be neglecting things outside of this Cyberworld!!...and that is the danger. JWD can indeed help you make REAL friends…even if you don’t to to each other, cause PM’s and chat-rooms and e-mails and texts can build real friendships. But before you know it, you are on your apostaphone while sitting your truck or in your garage so you won’t offend your wife! And that increases a problem you already have…..your ever growing double life. I hate mine! But have gotten damm good at it unfortunately.

    So just be cautious of these little “dangers”…because when you are really hurting…you may need distractions, and JWD can become an incredible distraction...with moving on in your life in some way...or fixing things in your own real world. Not everyone on JWD is able to find total freedom from the JW cult…I now have many friends here who just can not escape fully…and for many a good reason. I urge all those here who are totally free to always show respect for those who for whatever reason can not be free of it…I know that we would all appreciate that. So anyway…I hope to slow down now with my posting…I have many things to deal with outside of Cyberworld that I have really been neglecting.

    So once again Simon...thanks you for JWD and now JWN....and I sooo love you guys… and thank you sooo much for being here….....oompa

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1
    Well of course the info I sent in was so complete (very long letter)…that they were forced to agree with some of my well studied research…but also blatantly lie about the rest…so blatant in fact…that they sent their reply not to ME…but my local elders to READ to me…not even let me see…and not give me a copy!!.

    Bastards!!

    Oompa, The very things you write about are very true. I am glad you found this as a place to escape to as well as many others here.

    I really appreciated story and thank you for sharing. There are many other things you have written about that I would love to comment on but my time here is limited tonight. But, I do wanna share one thing, I am very happy to have found this place and others here as well. It's been a great support when your world is shattering around you.

    Take care!

    Quirky

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d
    So anyway…I hope to slow down now with my posting

    Meh. You'll be back in a couple of hours.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa
    Sent2 days ago
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    Leslie
  • John Doe
    John Doe

    Poor oompa.

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    You are so right, Oompa. We had a fire at our house in January 2005 and had to stay in a hotel for a week while the damage was fixed. I work a second job at home and couldn't do so without unlimited long distance, so for a week, I had nothing to do but surf the net. Then I discovered JWD and spent almost every waking hour on JWD reading the current and previous posts. It became an addiction for me in just a few day's time, and that was without posting. I avoided it for a few years and then got back on again. Now I neglect housework and my second job because of it. And it got only worse when it was announced that JWD was going to close, because I also joined JWS. Your post is a good reminder that I need to get my priorities straight. It's just the I was out for so long without the company of other exjws, I seem to be making up for lost time. Like you, I'll try to get other things done in real life that are just as or even more important.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Oompa..Your safe now..Your on JWN..LOL!!..............................

    Laughing Mutley...OUTLAW

  • tooktheredpill
    tooktheredpill

    OMG Oompa!

    I just realized I have always been able to go to my Parents with ANYTHING that bothered me…but not this). When you are in that situation...and oh how many I have seen like that here....then you REALLY need someone to talk to. You need friends who understand what you may be going through…and I found them on JWD...and nowhere else.

    There is no better way of describing how this Forum has helped us! When your own blood, your family, just get scared when you talk, and their reaction is to "let the Elders know", is when you realize that "the Truth" (tm) is really a cult. There is no reasoning, no bible counsel, NO LOVE. Even the love of the family is conditioned by this Organization.

    It's been a difficult awakening, but JWD has helped us a lot.

    (((OOMPA)))

    Have a great weekend!

    TTRP

  • aligot ripounsous
    aligot ripounsous

    Oompa,

    is it your 5000th post that makes you so effusive ?

  • Frank75
    Frank75

    Ooompa:

    I am so happy to read your heart sleeve. I have followed your one line posts and have often wondered about the story behind you and your Avitar. Young Frankenstein being one of my favorite comedies of all time. Got to hand it to Mel Brooks!

    Anyway I know where you have been as our life experiences seem to be very similar. I am fortunate to have left with at least my wife in tow, or it seems more accurate to say she was pulling me along. She was ready to give up on the JW's years before me but stuck with it for my sake.

    I feel the double agent life or hiding true feelings is long term detrimental to us and a great strain to real relationships (not the fantasy ones JW's feel they have in their conditional brotherhood)

    I am glad my wife was patient with me and wonder if there isn't a lesson to be learned there. Had she just left would I have drawn a line in the sand and tried forever to prove the JW way to her with far different results, is hard to say.

    But it is for each of us to decide what our boundaries will be in the exit process. I remember reading the story of one JW from Washington State who put his experience on the Internet. He found it far more advantageous to work out a plan to open his families eyes to the errors of the Watchtower slowly until they were ready to step away from it together. Doing that was far better than running at the bulwark of the JW machine by tackling the Elders and CO's or frontal attacks on key issues with our families. I eventually did what you did while in actuality my wife did the above. I alienated everyone, so it is with sadness that I recognize her way is to be preferred.

    Cheers from "Aby Normal" Frank75

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