Jacob wrestles with an angel

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  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Jewish tradition believes that the story is told to illustrate the two sides of human nature: positive and negative. That no matter who we are, or what we've done, we can become followers of the righteous path.

    It also teaches us to show a little chutzpah in our dealings with God. Since it gets boring having your ass kissed all the time, God likes it when you show a little sass.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Doesn't mal' akh sound an awful lot like Molech?

    Only if you have hearing problems.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Cameo-d

    Time of Jacob’s Troubles

    The rain was so fine that it whirled as a mist in the cool air. A breeze tossed strands of the man’s hair and as the morning light passed through it, I saw burgundy highlights. The mist gathered in an aura around him and twinkles of gold stood suspended in mid air. It suddenly struck me that this was why artists had depicted them with halos. In the shadows of clouds, he became even more illuminated.

    I thought of asking his name. It seemed rather awkward and impolite to continue a conversation without knowing his name at this point. But then, I thought of the story of Jacob. Had he not asked the name of his angel and received an infliction?

    In my minds eye, I saw Jacob with his angel. The engagement was not one of physical wrestling; it was not a tug of war. “Wrestling” was a poor choice of words for what was intended as a figurative expression for negotiations. Jacob was in awe of the angel messenger, but even so, he expected an advantage for himself in cooperating with what the angel was proposing. He hung onto every word the angel spoke. Jacob and the angel negotiated the terms, a bargain was struck and a covenant was made.

    Jacob may have had his good points, but from his youth he was a liar, a deceiver, and a cheat. He had a clever way about him. Jacob was no lover of truth. He proved this when he instead chose loyalty to his wicked mother, and his great transgression against the truth shaped the course of his life. It would not be the only time that Jacob would choose family loyalty over righteousness.

    The act of the angel striking his thigh was symbolic in two ways. Because Jacob thereafter was lame, it became a physical manifestation of stumbling. His actions caused a great fall in mankind. The thigh is often used as a gentle word for reproduction aspects. Thus, the fruit of his loins carried the scars of his commitment to the program. Jacob’s dream of the ladder bridging heaven and earth was symbolic of his voluntary visit to the spacecraft where he underwent genetic probing and DNA reassignment experiments.

    Perhaps this is when he received his knowledge of animal husbandry. He was very clever in using this to his advantage when he struck a bargain with his father-in -law for flocks and herds. Through the “secrets” of genetics revealed to him by the angels, he was able to breed a stronger stock which he kept for himself.

    Jacob’s Ladder! “The Ladder” was the NATO code name of a drug used to increase aggression in soldiers. It had been administered to US soldiers without their knowledge during chemical warfare trials in the Vietnam era. Others had discovered this truth about Jacob as well! In their own way they had tried to tell us in subtle messages.

    Why were these angel creatures doing this to humans? Was it some revenge plot on our Creator? Was it out of jealousy toward us? We were not experimental mistakes! The ones who created us had created these beautiful angels beings before us. Our creators were experts! It was this angel race who had plummeted us into destruction! A war broke out in heaven…had these creatures hurt our creators? Had we, in our selfishness, not understood this was why they could not get back to us?

    And what was the crux of Jacob's covenant with the angel? He had allowed genetic experimentation and the mixing of alien blood into human lineage.

    I felt an alarming sense of caution come over me. I would have to be very diligent to keep my guard up around this creature. Not for a moment could I let my hand tip. I didn’t care what his name was. It was only the civility of etiquette that even prompted me to consider asking. Truly, though, I did not want to even be that familiar with this creature. He was here for a reason and I did not know why.

    “Do you drink coffee?” I asked.

    “Yes, thank you. Black.”

    “I’ll be right back,” I said, grateful to find an escape for a few minutes.

    Perhaps his presence signaled that the time of Jacob’s Troubles were about to be upon us. We were the terminal generation; the generation of destruction. "He will make a full end of all nations." It would be a time when every human would have to decide his ultimate fate. They would each one have to ask themselves the question that Jacob asked: Loyalty to Mother, or love of truth?

    “How does a damn hologram drink coffee?” I muttered to myself as I reached for a cup.

    Girl, you need to give up the drugs. No, really. Give them up.

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Enlarging it for Gregor as per request.

    Time of Jacob’s Troubles

    The rain was so fine that it whirled as a mist in the cool air. A breeze tossed strands of the man’s hair and as the morning light passed through it, I saw burgundy highlights. The mist gathered in an aura around him and twinkles of gold stood suspended in mid air. It suddenly struck me that this was why artists had depicted them with halos. In the shadows of clouds, he became even more illuminated.

    I thought of asking his name. It seemed rather awkward and impolite to continue a conversation without knowing his name at this point. But then, I thought of the story of Jacob. Had he not asked the name of his angel and received an infliction?

    In my minds eye, I saw Jacob with his angel. The engagement was not one of physical wrestling; it was not a tug of war. “Wrestling” was a poor choice of words for what was intended as a figurative expression for negotiations. Jacob was in awe of the angel messenger, but even so, he expected an advantage for himself in cooperating with what the angel was proposing. He hung onto every word the angel spoke. Jacob and the angel negotiated the terms, a bargain was struck and a covenant was made.

    Jacob may have had his good points, but from his youth he was a liar, a deceiver, and a cheat. He had a clever way about him. Jacob was no lover of truth. He proved this when he instead chose loyalty to his wicked mother, and his great transgression against the truth shaped the course of his life. It would not be the only time that Jacob would choose family loyalty over righteousness.

    The act of the angel striking his thigh was symbolic in two ways. Because Jacob thereafter was lame, it became a physical manifestation of stumbling. His actions caused a great fall in mankind. The thigh is often used as a gentle word for reproduction aspects. Thus, the fruit of his loins carried the scars of his commitment to the program. Jacob’s dream of the ladder bridging heaven and earth was symbolic of his voluntary visit to the spacecraft where he underwent genetic probing and DNA reassignment experiments.

    Perhaps this is when he received his knowledge of animal husbandry. He was very clever in using this to his advantage when he struck a bargain with his father-in -law for flocks and herds. Through the “secrets” of genetics revealed to him by the angels, he was able to breed a stronger stock which he kept for himself.

    Jacob’s Ladder! “The Ladder” was the NATO code name of a drug used to increase aggression in soldiers. It had been administered to US soldiers without their knowledge during chemical warfare trials in the Vietnam era. Others had discovered this truth about Jacob as well! In their own way they had tried to tell us in subtle messages.

    Why were these angel creatures doing this to humans? Was it some revenge plot on our Creator? Was it out of jealousy toward us? We were not experimental mistakes! The ones who created us had created these beautiful angels beings before us. Our creators were experts! It was this angel race who had plummeted us into destruction! A war broke out in heaven…had these creatures hurt our creators? Had we, in our selfishness, not understood this was why they could not get back to us?

    And what was the crux of Jacob's covenant with the angel? He had allowed genetic experimentation and the mixing of alien blood into human lineage.

    I felt an alarming sense of caution come over me. I would have to be very diligent to keep my guard up around this creature. Not for a moment could I let my hand tip. I didn’t care what his name was. It was only the civility of etiquette that even prompted me to consider asking. Truly, though, I did not want to even be that familiar with this creature. He was here for a reason and I did not know why.

    “Do you drink coffee?” I asked.

    “Yes, thank you. Black.”

    “I’ll be right back,” I said, grateful to find an escape for a few minutes.

    Perhaps his presence signaled that the time of Jacob’s Troubles were about to be upon us. We were the terminal generation; the generation of destruction. "He will make a full end of all nations." It would be a time when every human would have to decide his ultimate fate. They would each one have to ask themselves the question that Jacob asked: Loyalty to Mother, or love of truth?

    “How does a damn hologram drink coffee?” I muttered to myself as I reached for a cup.

    Gregor, this type looks huge and dark on my screen. It does not look the same way when it is posted. I enlarged to 4 and it looks more like a 3.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Cameo-d, Just say NO to drugs

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    I wrestle with demons....

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Cameo-d, Just say NO to drugs

    I decided to save them for my old age instead. Well now I am there!

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    You mean like "King of Kings"?

    Why don't you sprout a pair and speak plainly.

    BTS

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Cameo-d, Just say NO to drugs

    I decided to save them for my old age instead. Well now I am there!

    ROFL!!!

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Charles T. Russell, in a 1891 letter to Baron (Lord) Rothschild, mailed from Palestine, outlined possible courses of action that could be taken to establish the Jews in Palestine. Russell’s letters praised the Rothschild’s money which established Jewish colonies in Palestine. Russell writes Rothschild, ,,What is needed here, therefore, next to water and cleanliness, is a good government which will protect the poor from the ravenous and the wealthy. Banking institutions on sound bases, and doing business honorably, are also greatly needed " Russell continues, "May the God of Jacob direct you, my dear Sir, and all interested with you in the deliverance and prosperity of Israel, and blessed will they be who, to any extent, yield themselves as his servants in fulfilling his will as predicted."(14)

    Curious to know, why does C.T. Russell refer to "The God of Jacob" instead of Jehovah? And besides, I have heard "god of abraham" more frequently as a term than god of Jacob. Was this a way to placate his funder geneticists?

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