by BurnTheShips 23 Replies latest social current
Prohibiting the sale of Guns..Will not Prohibit the sale of Guns................We have much stricter Gun laws in Canada.....I can get anything I want..Without the hassle of a lot of paper work..............Let law abiding Citizens have whatever guns they want......The Criminals already have them and they`re not going to give them up............................................
...OUTLAW
The 300 at thermopylae was a MOVIE the reality is that there was an army at thermopylae. When it was obvious that they were going to be flanked and overrun the majority of the army retreated while the 300 (plus about 1300 other Greek soldiers) stayed to hold the assyrians while the army got away... They did NOT hold for an additional 3 days... More like 3 hours! Stop getting your 'history' from Hollywood!
Leonidas held the pass for three days with a numerically vastly inferior force.
Many people are buying guns because they (like burn) are neuritic and think Obama is going to start a race war
No. Most people are buying guns because they think restrictions are coming soon, as they did under Clinton, and want to get their stuff now. There are already bills drafted and ready in Congress waiting for a president that won't veto.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1022_ih.xml
Obama's Attorney General pick, Eric Holder, does not bode well at all.
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BTS . Preserving wilderness areas is high on the list of a hunter
yes thats true, but the fact is also true that wilderness areas and wild life can preserve itself quite nicely without the intervention of man
and their guns.
There is absolutely no laws on the table to restrict the sales of guns who primarily use is for game hunting.....dont worry yourself.
As too Obama taking away guns... He's not going to, stop freaking out
Congress' plan would let AG 'ban guns at will'
2nd Amendment critics are 'ready to run wild'
A perfect storm is developing for Second Amendment opponents that could allow President-elect Barack Obama's choice for attorney general – Eric Holder – to "ban guns at will" despite the 2008 affirmation from the U.S. Supreme Court that U.S. citizens have a right to bear arms.
The situation was described with alarm by Alan Korwin, author of Gun Laws of America, in a recent commentary.
He cited Holder's known support for gun bans – the former Clinton administration official endorsed the District of Columbia's complete ban on functional guns in residents' homes before it was overturned by the Supreme Court.
And Korwin pointed to overwhelming Democratic majorities in Congress as well as Obama's known support for gun restrictions and his presence in the Oval Office.
Thirdly, Korwin, one of many Second Amendment advocates raising concerns, cited a proposal already submitted to Congress at a time when its backers could not reasonably expect it to succeed.
The submission is H.R. 1022 by New York Democrat Carolyn McCarthy and 67 co-sponsors. It was introduced in February 2007 and the next month referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security, where it has stayed.
But that could change in the 111th Congress, sworn in today. And Korwin said the plan would allow the U.S. Attorney General – possibly Holder – to add to the list of guns banned to the public any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."
"Note that … Holder … wrote a brief in the (District of Columbia) Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home," Korwin said.
In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event."
"In plain English," Korwin said, "This means that any firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public. That presumption can be challenged only by suing the federal government over each firearm it decides to ban, in a court it runs with a judge it pays. This virtually dismisses the principles of the Second Amendment.
"The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose – is that devious or what? And of course, 'sporting purpose' is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent," he said.
Korwin told WND a new proposal to replace H.R. 1022 is not expected to be less draconian.
"Remember – these bans were proposed when the congressional anti-rights crowd had no chance of success. Now they are ready to run wild, or according to Sarah (Brady) herself, 'I have never been so confident,'" Korwin wrote, referring to the champion of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993, which requires background checks on purchasers of handguns.
Korwin said the Democrats listed in H.R. 1022 a framework for guns to be banned that includes originals, copies or duplicates of a wide-ranging list of shotguns, pistols and rifles.
One of the red flags for semiautomatic rifles would be "anything" that can serve as a grip, and as set up now, the Democrat members of the Judiciary Committee "are all sworn enemies to the Second Amendment and are unlikely to be swayed at all by any firearms related arguments," he said.
The Republicans all "need to be pressed hard to do everything they can to block the appointment."
Further, with the expectation that Obama will appoint at least one or two Supreme Court justices, further damage could be just a vote or two away, he said.
"If he can get a 5-4 or 6-3 majority who dislike gun rights, you could find that your [Second Amendment] rights aren't what they've been for 200 years," Korwin said.
John Snyder assembled a list of prominent critics of the Holder nomination.for the Firearms Coalition.
"A former Ohio secretary of state, (Ken) Blackwell notes that, 'despite Obama's new lip service to the Second Amendment, Holder signed onto a brief earlier this year (2008) reaffirming his long-held position that the Second Amendment confers no rights whatsoever to private citizens, and that the Supreme Court should have upheld D.C.'s absolute ban on handguns, even in homes."
Snyder also cited comments from Brian Darling, director of U.S. Senate Relations at the Heritage Foundation, that Holder's position "strongly suggests that Holder is hostile to private gun ownership and will work to restrict gun rights."
Shotgun News columnist Jeff Knox wrote, "The gun rights community should make every effort to see to it that Holder's nomination is withdrawn or rejected."
According to Second Amendment Foundation founder Alan Gottlieb, Holder has supported handgun licensing and mandatory trigger locks. He also lobbied for limits on gun shows.
"This is not the record of a man who will come to office as the nation's top law enforcement officer with the rights and concerns of gun owners in mind," Gottlieb wrote.
"America's 85 million gun owners have ample reason to be pessimistic about how their civil rights will fare under the Obama administration," Gottlieb said. "Mr. Obama will have a Congress with an anti-gun Democrat majority leadership to push his gun control agenda. Gun owners have not forgotten Mr. Obama's acknowledged opposition to concealed carry rights, nor his support for a ban on handgun ownership when he was running for the Illinois state senate."
The issue of gun rights is more important than many believe, wrote Joseph Farah, WND's founder and editor, in a recent column. He cited a study from the University of Maryland and University of Michigan that uncovered a beneficial link between gun shows and crime.
"We find a sharp decline in the number of gun homicides in the weeks immediately following a gun show," the study concluded. Furthermore, in Texas they found "gun shows reduce the number of gun homicides by 16 in the average year."
"Holder’s appointment to be AG must be approved by the Senate," wrote David Codrea in the Examiner. "While it is highly unlikely that opponents could muster the 51 votes needed to reject Holder's appointment, a single senator can place a 'hold' on the confirmation and effectively lock up the system just as Democrats did with a number of President Bush's judicial appointments and the appointment of John Bolton to be Ambassador to the U.N."
The Supreme Court decided in the D.C. vs. Heller case that the Second Amendment provides an individual right to own firearms, not just the right for states to form armed militias.
The Constitution does not permit "the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home," Justice Antonin Scalia said in the majority opinion.
Justice John Paul Stevens, writing in dissent, said the majority "would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons."
Scalia said the ruling should not "cast doubt on long-standing prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons or the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings."
Scalia was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas. Joining Stevens in dissent were Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David Souter.
The amendment, ratified in 1791, says: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
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This is a recent video of Burn The Ships and his guns, I find it very informative
"yes thats true, but the fact is also true that wilderness areas and wild life can preserve itself quite nicely without the intervention of man"
Not if people are cutting down the forest filling in the rivers to build shitty condo's. The fact is that organizations like ducks unlimited purchase millions of acres that they leave undeveloped or remove developed areas. Massive tracts of land in the midwest for deer and elk that won't be developed because of hunters. African nations instead of cutting down and whiping out the animals will let hunters from the US and EU come down and pay thousands to hunt.
I've not hunted in many years but I can see that hunters are a huge boon to animals and wildlife.
ROFL @ Homers vid.
Well, now I finally understand this gun folly. The phallic firearm must compensate for the failing phallus.
Obama was the President of a gun control group. Obama Campaign did not want Obama's gun control record to come out in the campaign. His appointment of a gun grabber for attorney general says it all. The first thing Joseph Stalin did was grab the guns, Hitler grabbed the guns from Jew, Communist Chairman MAO grabbed the guns and then starved sixty million people to death. Their butchering the Bill of Rights and Constitution and stealing your Social Security and Pension and they know when they have it all people are gonna be mighty pissed off so their gonna grab your guns first. Your Guns are your last hope.
Obama was the President of a gun control group.
It remains to be seen how he will govern. The AWB passed unnder Clinton in 1994, and that provided a large part of the impetus for driving one party out of Congress.
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Guilty as charged!
I purchased a new Glock 19, in preparation of a ban on new sales of high-capacity magazines for semi-automatic handguns.
-LWT
