I wanted to scream at the Elder Sunday morning "you are a lying !!!!!!"

by TooBad TooSad 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  fokyc

  I am not allowed (by my wife) to attend our local KH any more, as she knows I would stand up and tell them they are liars; because they were then and still are liars.

  I was IN from 1953, baptised 1963, and at start of 1970's several friends sold their properties to fund becoming pioneers etc., several are still alive and struggling to make ends meet.

  I was severely criticised at the time for keeping a full time job and paying for a house.

  I believe the org teaches elders to lie at the various schools they have, how else can so many be doing it?

  fokyc
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  still_in74

  "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things........all evidence in fullillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years........as a young person you will never fulfill any carreer that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking of a colledge education, it means at least four, perhaps six of eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"

  Oh no, that wouldnt affect me as a little kid hearing this. Oh no, that would royally F up my view EVERYTHING.
  No, I wasnt old enough to remember 1975 but I grew up with the mentality that I would never grow old, that education was bad. Hell, even investing was 'bad' because it was gambling. I grew up in that post 1975 extremely controlled environment of the WTS.
  I can say truly that I thought I would die if Armageddon came because i was so evil. I never thought I would ever get married or even graduate and have to worry about a career. I would be dead anyway, or, if really lucky i would be in the new system.
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  garybuss

  Time is the enemy as well as the friend of the high control publishers of religious fiction. The biggest thing high control groups have going is the gullibility and stupidity of their customers.
  
  Jehovah's Witnesses I know depend on the aggregate suspension of reasonable personal boundaries. In my opinion the best view of a Jehovah's Witnesses is in the rear view mirror.
  
  
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  Homerovah the Almighty

  A picture says a thousand words
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  sacolton

  You could have asked "What did the Society mean when they said, 'Stay Alive 'Til 75'? For what?"
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  TooBad TooSad

  Thanks for all of the great posts. We can not let the 1975 thing fade off into the sunset.

  The WTBTS used fear of the impending destruction to grow their numbers during that time.

  I am sensing at the meetings that this is starting all over again. One elder said during

  the Watchtower study that the end is imminent. The word imminent means that something

  will happen without delay. 1975 was 34 years ago. Maybe that is not enough years

  to quality as without delay.

  PS Almighty- I loved your post! You rock.

  TooBad TooSad
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  no more kool aid

  Too bad, that's why my fade didn't go as planned. When I finally woke up I could not go to one more meeting. I started paying attention and would sit there in disbelief at comments like this and crazy statistics that were used. I was actually afraid that I would stand up and cause a scene. I am a byproduct of 1975. My parents didn't own a home, traipsed all over special pioneering. I sometimes went to two or three different schools a year. When the end didn't come in 1975, my dad could only hang on until 1980. No One has seen him since (df'ed). My 1975 story is not unique. It is so sad to see parents who told you you would never get to junior high getting sick and dying, having wasted their entire lives. The saddest part is that I can't even share my thoughts with my mom because she would label me apostate and not speak to me again, so if you want any kind of relationship you just have to appear as this spiritually weak person who couldn't do it anymore.
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  Doubting Bro

  I was a very young boy then but I distinctly remember being very afraid that the big A was going to start when I was at school and that I would be separated from my parents.

  I think JWs that joined after that time tend to not believe that the WTS was pushing that date hard but even as a little boy, I remember the fear mongering.

  What I didn't realize is that the media picked up on the WTS's prediction that the world would end. Those newpaper clippings are the first time I've ever seen that. Great post.
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  civicsi00

  I WISH I could have been there when he said this. I would have called him out on it, if not during, then after the discourse was over.

  We cannot let the Watchtower slip this past all the newbies out there. They were lying then and they continue to lie to cover it all up, just like all the other previous failed prophecies. What about the "generation" teaching? Are they going to blame the R/F for that too?

  My father-in-law told me the other day that the PO of his congregation brought up the 1975 fiasco about 3 years ago and told the congregation that it was the R/F's fault for "reading too much into it". My FIL came into the Witnesses at about 1978 and it wasn't until I started talking about it that he knew anything about it. My FIL is now out, he's just read COC and has started reading ISOCF.

  I felt the effects of failed prophecy because my father lived as if "the end" was right around the corner, and instilled in me a fear that I would not make it. I'm finally free, but there are others still trapped.

  I will never give up the fight to free those who desire to be free from the tyranny that is the Watchtower. I will also never give up in publishing their mistakes and making it known to others.
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  OUTLAW

  !975 never happened!!..The WBT$ says so!...............I`ve talked to JW`s who Preached during that era....Not one of them had a problem Lying to me about 1975..It never happened..They were all content to lie about years of preaching 1975,as the end.............The most troubling part..They actually believed themselves.....................................

  ...OUTLAW