Spot on Roddy,
And that is what I was trying to get at,it seems to me that when it comes down to the nitty-gritty the majority of Dubs support the religion for emotional reasons,"I feel this or that"
What I would like to know is how to combat that unreasoning attitude,so as to free them to choose whatever life they really want,the problem is that the emotions have been programmed in by the mind control techniques of the cult, and so are not genuine emotions.
I do not have any agenda to impose my,or anybody elses beliefs on anybody,as John Doe imputes, I simply seek a way out of the impasse that my nearest and dearest present to me when they play the emotional card,so as to avoid even looking at the logical or doctrinal arguments.
How do I get them to "see"?
Love
Wobble