Never surrender your physical wellbeing (Bethel) or your thinking ability (the organization) to anyone, ever.
metatron
Greatest Lesson You Have Learned from Your WT Experience?
by cameo-d 42 Replies latest jw experiences
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cameo-d
These are great answers.
Looks like because of what you have been subject to and what you have learned form it that it would be a cold day in hell before anyone pulls the wool over your eyes again.
One reason I have asked this question is because I have heard rumors of something called a "disclosure project" where the PTB may fake some sort of communication with alien-angel ET intelligence who have "come to lead the world into peace" before we completely annhiliate the human race. (this is later in the future after the coming economic collapse)
These creatures will appear to be benevolent. And as some of you have said next time around you will require extraordinary evidence. Since scriptures say there will be wondrous signs and miracles, etc. I wonder if you might be prepared for this event and how you will weigh it for truth or fiction.
The PTB will say that religion and politics were the elements that already deceived you and that has already passed. This next move (which replaces gov and religion) will be a fascist united Kingdom passed off as the New System.
How will you react when the evidence is extraordinary? Technology may overwhelm you at some point.
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megaflower
Cameo- are you talkling about conspiracy theories/illuminati. It sure sounds like it.
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jamiebowers
To stay away from anything that makes me feel pressured or trapped.
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Finally-Free
Bad associations spoil useful habits.
It took 20 years, but I finally put the principle into practice and eliminated all bad associates from my life.
W
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cameo-d
"Cameo- are you talkling about conspiracy theories/illuminati. It sure sounds like it."
NO.
The build up for this "disclosure " is seeping out into mainstream news. It is slowly being "revealed" by world governments and the Vatican.
People are slowly being "set up" to receive "extraordinary evidence".
Just so you know, I do NOT believe in UFO's. I think this is a deceptive scheme being hatched for a sinister purpose. I think there is an evil
Canaanite bloodline right here on this earth and sometime in the future they will come forth claiming to be directed by these aliens who they will
say are the angels or the Sons of god. The WT can call them the Christ class or whatever.... but these humans will claim to be speaking for "the
christ" or "jehovah" (Just like the FDS claims to speak for Jehovah and the people buy it!) as they display what will at first appear as benevolence
to save the human race. Their offer of salvation will come with a condition of adherence to their rules. There is no true freedom when you are co-
erced by an ultimatum to "make the right choice". They will offer such a deal as they attempt to bring about a fascist one world new system. I
believe this is a coming deception as a means to an agenda. I think it has been planned for many years.
From the Copenhagen Post:
Secret UFO Archives Opened
Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:44 KR
The Danish Air Force has opened its UFO archives, providing information on over 15,000 reported extraterrestrial sightings to the public http://www.cphpost.dk/index.php (Jan. 27, 2009)
David Cameron has vowed to publish any secret files that may exist on UFOs if he becomes prime minister.
Speaking at one of his regular Cameron Direct public meetings, he pledged to be "open and frank" with any government knowledge about close encounters.
The Conservative leader was responding to a question about apparent government cover-ups of UFO activity.
A member of the audience asked: "In July last year the respected scientist and astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon, spoke on a British radio station.
"He said the American government had had contact with extra terrestrials on multiple occasions and that these were ongoing.
"He spoke about the Roswell event in 1947 where wreckage of a downed UFO was recovered and found to contain alien bodies.
"He said this event was real but was covered up by the government for many years.
"Do you agree with me that the British people have a right to know if we have been visited, and if so, when you become prime minister will you seek to lift the veil of secrecy and give the public the truth that they deserve?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7854018.stm
(Jan. 27, 2009)
The RAF has tried to shoot down suspected UFOs as part of a Government directive, it has been claimed.
Pilots have apparently fired upon the unidentified objects without success since the 1980s, according to Nick Pope, who used to run the Ministry of Defence's UFO project.
"There was a faction in the MoD who said 'We want to shoot down a UFO and that will resolve the issue one way or another'," he told The Sun.
"We know of cases where the order has been given to shoot down - with little effect to the UFO."
Mr Pope claimed that the RAF only attempted to engage when the mysterious objects were perceived to be a threat.
He said: "In the case of UFOs, whether the object is causing a threat is very much a pilot's judgement call. The public won't know unless it comes down in a heavily populated area."
- Britain releases batch of files on UFO sightings - Gregory Katz, AP News (May 14, 2008)
- UK releases classified UFO files - Ker Than, NewScientist.com News (May 14, 2008)
- In pictures: The UFO files - BBC News (May 14, 2008)
- UK National Archives UFO Site
- Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens - Ariel David, AP News (May 13, 2008)
- Vatican: It's OK for Catholics to Believe in Aliens - Fox News (May 13, 2008)
- Vatican astronomer: E.T. could be our ‘extraterrestrial brother’ - Fr. Roderick (May 13, 2008)
- Vatican says aliens could exist - David Wiley, BBC News Rome (May 13, 2008)
- Ovni-USA Article about February 2008 United Nations Meeting: This is a fax of the French article, plus translation into English. Page 1 [JPG file] Page 2 [JPG file] Page 3 [JPG file] Page 4 [text file] - (February 23, 2008)
- What Kucinich Saw: Witnesses Describe His Close Encounter (January 2,2008)
- MoD to open British UFO X-files (December 24,2007)
- Japan government spokesman: UFOs exist (December 18,2007)
- Japan's Top Government Spokesman: UFOs 'Definitely' Exist (December 18, 2007)
- Defense Minister troubled over legal issues if UFO arrives (December 20, 2007) (Note that this could be spun to be xenophobic.)
- Defense Minister Ishiba Considers Japan's Options in UFO Attack (December 21, 2007)
- Japan's science minister hopes aliens exist (December 21, 2007)
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parakeet
cameo: "I think there is an evil Canaanite bloodline right here on this earth and sometime in the future they will come forth claiming to be directed by these aliens who they will say are the angels or the Sons of god. The WT can call them the Christ class or whatever.... but these humans will claim to be speaking for "the christ" or "jehovah" (Just like the FDS claims to speak for Jehovah and the people buy it!) as they display what will at first appear as benevolence to save the human race."
Hmmmm. Medication and therapy will provide all the answers you're looking for, cameo. Call your doctor tomorrow. I'm serious.
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WTWizard
One rule is that objective evidence outweighs specious "in a sense" claims. If they have to add "In a sense" to "your wish is granted", it is not good enough. If God wishes my favor ever again, He is going to have to spectacularly prove that He is worthy of it. I expect spectacular proof that He doesn't want me all to Himself before I will ever serve Him, in any capacity, again.
Otherwise, I am sure to find myself in some kind of sequestered religious service for the balance of my life--if not as a witless, in some other religious denomination. All for no reward--God wants me all to Himself just so no one else can do anything, and then He can provide a miserable existence that will require 24/7 devoted service to Him forever. Beyond that will be impossible, because God wants to have no competition, and is (and has shown me) totally willing to do whatever to eliminate such.
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cawshun
wtwizard,
What you just wrote made more sense to me then anything I have ever heard. I think you hit the nail on the head!
That would be a miserable existence.
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Bubblie
I can usually be happy in whatever situation I am in. When I was a kid my parents divorced, I lived with my mom, happy. I got older was a hippie in the late 60's early 70's that made me really happy. Got married at 24 to a wonderful person, again happy. Started a bible study at 25 wanted to stop but kept it up okay semi-happy for thirty years. Found out some of the lies didn't want to believe it. Left in 2005 not real happy about all discovery of even more lies made me heart sick. Divorced in 2008 still not happy about that situation but will get over it. I am a strong woman who will move through this situation, too. I have a mind that I can use and have really been able to express myself on here without feeling like I need to be censored. Will try not to hurt anyones feelings, but the biggest thing I learned from the witnessess is that I am imperfect and make mistakes. So sorry to anyone I've hurt by telling my story.
Kit
