45 JW Rules/Teachings that "go beyond" writings of the Bible

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  • oompa
    oompa

    (1 Corinthians 4:6) . . .that in our case YOU may learn the [rule]: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,”. . .

    45 JW Rules/Teaching That "go beyond the things that are written" in the Bible

    (there is a new number one....my personal fave and so easy to prove).....feel free to post others as you remember them..............oompa

    1. That Jesus used the name "Jehovah" in prayer and in teaching, and that the Apostles did too............... TOTALLY NOT IN BIBLE!!.....the name Jehovah does not appear in ANY ancient Greek or Hebrew manuscript of the Christian Greek Scriptures....(see Insight book

    2. clothing requirements................. ties/jackets/suits mandatory for ministry/talks/privileges....and sisters can freeze there ass of rather than wear a hilliary clinton pantsuit or they can not be on the school

    3. birthday celebration forbidden....the anniversary of our child's birth is the same importance as wedding anniversary

    4. claiming Divine Name it was in the new testament when no manuscript contains it (that's kinda a big one)

    5. allowing blood fractions when blood was required to be poured on the ground...never mind that the instructions were only about eating blood and that the only way they could "abstain" from blood was to not eat it or use it in pagan worship (odd that the priests used it so much in the worship of jehovah...barf)...medical use should be perfectly fine...i wonder if the fractions have dirt in it?

    6. higher education is a bad thing, even if you live at home...yet high school is ok if you live at home...(and believe me...there is not any difference between the fun stuff you can do at both..but college is more likely to open your mind...not just your zipper)

    7. masturbation is an evil sin

    8. not celebrating/clapping when someone is repentant and reinstated.......................................true stupid non biblical rule but nobody in bible was reinstated i don't think

    9. restricting privileges when someone is reinstated................................the prodigal son was celebrated and welcomed back in full (from bonnzo)

    10. Christianity (through one) organization instead of a way of life...............that passes for me

    11. Salvation is dependent upon belonging to the JW denomination.....................ditto

    12. The Watchtower organization speaks for and is controlled by Jehovah, (thereby equating the organization with God himself)........first half only

    13.The "faithful and discreet slave" is an "anointed class" (rather than each individual Christian who shows himself or herself to be responsible and obedient to Christ.).........ditto and a big one on the first half only......see the second part can not be proven by bible either...only mentioned once

    14. The early Christians were led by a governing body..................................VERY good one.....

    15. Can't support any charity linked to any religion, and can't join Boy/Girl Scouts or buy their cookies........mo mimi.......................you would lose all privleges (maybe df??).......I put this under the heading of Food Control....and Hatred of Camping

    16. Jesus appointed the "anointed remnant" as his true church in 1919..................................................ditto, not provable by bible alone

    17. The so-called "anointed" class (actually, the governing body) is God's channel and prophet.........I think this passes but not sure...scriptures?

    18. The Bible cannot be correctly understood without the aid of WT literature and programs.................true, beyond scriptural proof

    19. Jesus returned in 1914....................(i split this one in two) big one too....since no dates are in bible....this can not be proven using only bible

    20. and is "invisibly present" since then................ditto, but god is hard to prove too since invisible...some could argue his return is visible from bible

    (21.) Individual JWs must not read Bible-related publications produced by non-WT sources.....................................i think so, any scripture even close?...i suppose there were warnings about foreign gods/practices though

    22. Arrogantly promoting the pretense that the JWs maintain higher standards than any other religion and proclaiming publicly that all other churches are members of Babylon the Great..................................passes but barely cause.....well their standard are proven to be pretty darn high...but even IDENTYFYING Babylon TG as false religion can not be proven from the bible, much less that all other religions are part of it

    23.The "congregation" of Matthew 18:17 is "the body of elders." (Matthew 18:17) 17 If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector. footnote Or, "to the ecclesia (assembly)." Gr., teiek·kle·si´ai;........................................................big ditto....how can you go from congregation/assembly to "body of elders"?..................way beyond.....

    24. Not "partaking" at the "memorial".......DITTO!....if you mean that not all can partake...in bible all in attendance partook, and passed in order to partake.....however everyone desiring everlasting life is to eat jesus bod and drink his blud (ick).....so the whole thing is messed up 25.Secret kangaroo courts..........not mentioned in bible or WT!.........but, Ditto! if you mean that three man judicial committee's not biblical for judging and punishing the sheep....there may be precedent with elders in jerusalem meeting to make a rule....but no precedent for "judicial committee" 26. Jesus is only the mediator to the 144,000...everyone else is a companion and lives by association with the chosen people...........i believe this makes the cut, but am not certain on the scripture they use for that, nor the main wt's that state that....so somebody post that evidence here please........we should prove that one is not in bible in anyway, and that WT says it is so

    27. Permitting (and encouraging) child baptism. Every baptism in the NT involved "men and women." Jesus was about 30 years old when he was baptized..........................ditto and one of my pet peeves for sure!....WT even acknowledges that in first century only adults were baptised...(yet they say they try so hard to imitate the 1st century christian congo)...often the carnage families are often put to is due to child baptism

    28. Discouraging/forbidding school sports and extra-curricular activities. This is done under the auspices of 1 Cor. 15:33 (bad associations), but what scriptural precedent is there for classifying all non-JWs (or even all non-christians, for that matter) as bad association? Jesus associated with sinners and non-believers...................this make the list....even if it was an all jw school they would not even have sports because they claim it "promotes a competitive nature".....WTF is wrong with that either????

    29.Requiring a confession of certain types of sins to a group of elders. The NT is clear that forgiveness only comes through Christ's sacrifice. There's a passage in James that says 'if there is anyone sick among you, let him call the older men...' The WT interprets this to mean that "spiritually sick" JWs have to confess really bad sins (fornication, drunkenness, stealing, etc.) to elders. But that's a bit of a stretch. In Ray Franz's second book, he discusses a disagreement that he had with Uncle Fred about this scripture. Ray pointed out that the Greek word translated "sick" literally meant physically sick. This makes sense to me, because at the time James wrote his letter, the "older men" still had gifts of the spirit--such as healing. Thus, if someone was sick he could go to one of these faith-healing elders! But even if James meant "spiritually sick," there's still nothing in that scripture that says "people who commit certain types of sins have to confess them to a group of men in order to be forgiven." It just isn't there.......................................absolutely on the list!.....masturbation gets a lot of confession...i wish every dub would go ever time they have an immoral thought since it just like real adultery anyway.....the elders would have no time for any public meetings.......

    30. Disfellowshipping for smoking. While I agree that it's a rotten habit, there's no Biblical basis for casting someone out of the congregation for smoking...........................definitely beyond what is written... and i bet there are many other things they df for that are not biblical

    31. Allowing women to comment and give parts on meetings. Paul is explicit and clear in 1 Cor. 14:34-35 that women are to be silent in church. Period. This is an example of how JWs pick and choose which parts of the Bible to take literally. When Paul says to "abstain from blood," the JWs say that means to completely abstain; but for some reason, when Paul says for women to be silent in church, they don't think that means to be completely silent. Inconsistent much?.............................................yes...hot damm i had not thought of that!...........how do they explain the "silent" part???...I Will look it up

    33. Disfellowshipping for gambling. ...............for sure beyond what is written...God himself "got in on some action" because the apostles PRAYED before they cast lots to choose a replacement for judas

    34.Requiring overseers to maintain "the national average" in field service.................................yep that qualifies, and i had never even thought about that....very good scriptural support there olin and good logic

    35. Not allowing women to carry microphones or work behind the literature counter (or for women to be on the Governing Body)...............................i added the last part, because a woman could be on it and never "teach" and she would not have to be "silent" when they meet.........and how stupid they have nothing they can do but clean the hall when they can frikkin do every single thing the brothers do and side by side them at a quick-build!

    36.Forbidding voting in political elections...........................i agree and if loss of privileges or being "marked" in some way if you do then it is definitely going beyond things written (great point about Joseph and Daniel btw)

    37. Bible truths revealed as a light getting brighter and brighter..................................what a biggie! (was just reminded of this by Megaflower)..........this teaching is not found in the bible.......it clearly goes beyond what is written

    .38. Crop Control....You cannot raise tobacco.................from mimi.......................... true.....and oldie but goodie, still no new light

    39. You cannot do some type of work in a hospital, etc. in lieu of military service......from mimi................true, and prison is the result for many

    40. You cannot serve in the military.............more mimi..............................made up rule....sure was a lotta jw military in old testament!

    41. Job Placement Program...You can not work for a company that produced ammunition that was sold for war effort....................pretty sure that is still a non Bible rule.....

    42. You can not join the YMCA or YWCA.......................i believe they will expel you for this

    43. "This generation" (Matt. 24:34) spoken of by Jesus has a second fulfillment.....by still-in74...............this is true for all "second fulfillments" not mentioned in the Bible

    44. That Jesus second coming would include and inspection of all religions and pick one out as his personal fave...................how do they come up with this stuff?....not in Bible

    45. Hatred of mens facial hair and sideburns............................privleges withheld if you have too much or wrong style....also if head hair is too long

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    Plus they frown on having employment that requires you to sell tobacco or work in a place that uses tobacco, tavern or bar, gas station. I know they were at one time wanting do DF a girl that took up waitressing in a tavern and a young lad that was working for a gas station but they never did. WTF, these kids have to work if they want money...

  • oompa
    oompa

    Darn it...#1 was supposed to have this at the end of it:

    (see Insight book-2 p. 9 Jehovah)

    In the Christian Greek Scriptures. In view of this evidence it seems most unusual to find that the extant manuscript copies of the original text of the Christian Greek Scriptures do not contain the divine name in its full form.

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia
    5. allowing blood fractions when blood was required to be poured on the ground...

    Bear in mind that the reason why it was poured to the ground was because it was given in atonement for taking away the life of an animal.

    Which raises the question: Since when are blood donors murdered in order to obtain their blood? Why should the blood be poured in atonement if there is nothing to atone for?

  • Homerovah the Almighty
    Homerovah the Almighty

    Very good thread Oompa , its a keeper one that everyone should store as a reference

    Exposing the controlling ignorance and somewhat damaging oppressive power of this religion should be everyones concern.

  • tenyearsafter
    tenyearsafter

    How about not being "beyond reproach" if you work as a police officer?

  • oompa
    oompa
    tenyearslater: How about not being "beyond reproach" if you work as a police officer?

    Tenyears, this one will be on my list for sure, but once i stared doing the research on it........it was so funny i had to do a separate thread on it.........i find their position (which is NOWHERE in the Bible) so hysterical that i had to share many quotes from the article........click below for a good laugh....................oompa

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/171659/1/JW-self-defense-WT-says-we-are-too-slow-to-use-a-gun

    I know over time this list will grow........please post any others you think of........it is fun showing this list to others (i might should delete the comical parts so as to not offend)...........and share that some of these are causing you doubt since you have been unable to find how these are Biblical teachings.....and you know WT would never do that.....ask if they will take the list and at least explain a few of these........

  • tenyearsafter
    tenyearsafter

    Hi Oompa...I just read your other thread...sheesh, could the reasoning be anymore flawed?? I guarantee you that if there was a problem at WT headquarters, there would be no hesitation on the part of the staff to call the police...and if deadly force was required to handle the situation, oh well. Gotta love that rational form of reasoning!

  • oompa
    oompa

    btw guys...feel free to add more suggestions...and also some critique may be in order...i dont want to get any of these wrong and be an apostate........thanks........oompa

    and how did we forget the idea that the 144k is a literal number...when the entire book of rev is seems to be symbolic...and yet ONLY that number is literal???

  • tenyearsafter
    tenyearsafter

    That's a great one Oompa!

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