An excellent list I want to say! Thanks.
It really gets you to think about how much nonsense we let go right over our heads under the pretense that God's channel is talking to us.
CoC
45 JW Rules/Teachings that "go beyond" writings of the Bible
by oompa 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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manthedan
24. Not "partaking" at the "memorial".......DITTO!....if you mean that not all can partake...in bible all in attendance partook, and passed in order to partake.....however everyone desiring everlasting life is to eat jesus bod and drink his blud (ick).....so the whole thing is messed up
I got the deer in headlights look today by explaining this one to a close JW relatve of mine....even compared all the gospel accounts.
A+ Thread!
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J. Hofer
39 is not correct anymore (and hasn't been 3 years ago, when this list was compiled). some friends of mine still were doing time for this, but i already did civil service instead of military service some 14 years ago.
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nugget
Additional rules for women and children
If saying a prayer when a male is present a sister must wear a headcovering preferrably a tea towel.
Sisters must wear a skirt that is no shorter then the knee. If a sister was to kneel on the floor her skirt must touch the floor.
Sisters must dress modestly so no cleavage on display and petticoats should be worn. In some areas stokings or panty hose are required even in the hottest summer.
Sisters should not wear culottes that is just cheating.
Elders wives must not question their husbands regarding congregation business if her husband is on the phone to another elder she should leave the room.
An elders wife must care for children without complaint so that the husband can attend elders meetings and prepare talks.
Sisters should not pursue a career since this is self serving and is not keeping the eye simple. Ideally a sister should not work and pioneer.
If a baptised male is present then they should lead the meeting for field service even if they are very young or do not know the territory or what has been worked already.
Sisters are generally not given privilleges in the hall unless there is absolutely no other option. As soon as enough males are available a capable sister must step aside without complaint.
At assemblies sisters cannot run departments but must be directed by a brother. They cannot be attendants or baptise people. They can clean the toilets, pick up rubbish and stand next to collection boxes.
Sisters cannot give talks during the assembly except on the ministry school when it isn't a talk it is a private discussion overhead by all those in the auditorium.
when getting baptised you must wear modest attire and preferrably a plain T shirt.
T shirts with logos are not allowed.
Even when not at the meeting you should dress modestly at all times and if attending assembly you should wear clothes appropriate for meetings at all times even during the evenings.
If you get to to assembly early it is permitted to save all the end seats on the rows for members of your extended family. If you arrive later by car you can only save seats for people travelling with you. (pointless as they were in the same car).
The husband is head of the house and sisters must be in submission to them unless the husband has committed a sin of some kind and then the sister should go to the elders and confess and will be expected to give evidence against her husband.
If the husband is subsequently disfellowshipped the sister should not discuss spiritual matters with the husband and is responsible for the spiritual upbringing of any children.
You can seperate from a husband who endangers your life and spirituality or fails to support the family however you can only divorce on the grounds of fornication.
You should obey the society regarding what is appropriate in the bedroom if the husband wishes to experiment confess all to the elders.
Your wedding is not your special day it is an advertorial for the organisation so you must do everything modestly. No flashy entrances to the hall, no confetti, no toasts, not too many bridesmaids and groomsmen. Not too much money spent unless you are the daughter of a prominent elder then it is permitted.
Weddings are to be used to punnish non believers. Worldly relatives may be invited in moderation but any Df'd relatives and friends must be discouraged from attending. They must not be invited to the reception or form part of the wedding party or sit at the front of the hall.
You can talk to relatives who were brought up in the organisation but who chose not to be baptised even if they go on to live immoral lives, celebrate worldly holidays or join another religion but you must shun anyone who was once a baptised witness who chooses to leave for whatever reason.
Once children are out of a pram they are not permitted to sleep at the meetings. Children should be provided with their own study books and notebook and they should follow the meeting even when the topic is unsuitable for them. As soon a children can read drawing should not be permitted, colouring books, toys, felt tips and worldly books should not be brought to meetings.
Children must be quiet at meetings regardless of age and disability. If parents fail to keep them under control attendants have the right to criticise their parentling skills and suggest discipline.
Children should dress appropriately ideally boys should dress in suits and little girls in dresses.
No running in and around the hall even when you have been sitting still for 2 hours.
children should attend all the meetings including evening meetings regardless of homework commitments or the need for a regular bed time. Very young children should not wear pyjamas to the meeting.
children of elders come low in the family pecking order since dad is never around everyone elses children are more important to your father than you are.
It is permitted to get a drink during the interval but this should be done quickly. Visits to the toilet should not be excessive really a maximum of 2 visits should be sufficient.
children are expected to accompany their parents on the ministry from birth regardless of the weather.
These were the few things I could think of but there are more and the rules around field service are many.
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Amelia Ashton
So if a 6 year old baptized boy turns up for FS with his mother and there are only sisters present at the house prior to going out is the 6 year old expected to distribute territory and say the prayer?
Has this actually happened?
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nugget
Don't know never been in that situation. I have been in a service group where a baptised teen was expected to lead the group. He was so embarrassed. I suspect in the case of the six year old a mature sister would take the group and wear a tea towel.
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Band on the Run
If Jesus is viewed as the sacrificial lamb, why do we still treat blood as a life force. The Risen Christ is the life force. Otherwise, we should keep all Jewish dietary and other laws. Indeed, Jesus chased the moneychangers out of the temple, signaling his disapproval of the sacrifice of animals. It doesn't seem consistent to me.
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FollowedMyHeart
I'm adding this thread to my collection.
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Retrovirus
Hi Nugget, thaks so much for your additions. Could you please add some more for when a jw wife is married to an UBM?
There was so much we didn't understand when my brother's wife got baptised.
Retro
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nugget
If UBM means unbaptised minister then that is a whole can of worms
Under no circumstances should a baptised member of the congregation date someone who is not baptised.
Under no circumstances should a baptised member of the congregation marry someone who is not baptised, these rules also apply to someone who is newly baptised.
The couple would not be permitted to marry in a kingdom hall and appointed men who attend such a marriage risk deletion for poor judgement since by attending they give approval for rebellious conduct. ( This happened to elders in Salisbury UK).
On the ministry if someone of the opposite sex agrees to a bible study this should be passed on to a brother in the case of interested men and sister in the case of interested women.
You should not date so called worldly people and certainly not get engaged or married. The Bible says not to be unevenly yoked with unbelievers so such a step would show rebelliousness and may result in a marking talk, loss of privileges and reproof. Even if an elder appears to give tacit advice to get married then you must have misheard you are not supposed to marry anyone who is not a baptised witness.
Again you would not be allowed to marry in a kingdom hall and witnesses may not attend to show disapproval of your actions.
Dating is not recreation you should not date another person unless you intend to marry them.
If you realise that this person is not compatible you may be questioned as to why you broke off the attachment and may be reproved for leading someone on and playing with emotions.
Whilst dating a couple should be chapperoned at all times to ensure the courtship is honourable and the couple do not give into temptation. If a chapperone is not available it is permitted to meet at a public place but this is risky since others may be stumbled thinking you were up to no good and there is not a witness there to verify that all was above board so elders may leap to conclusions.
As a sister you are not permitted to receive a man into your home if you are home alone as neighbours may think you were having an affair and bring the name of god into disrupute. This makes having workmen in the home an issue. Our female cleaner was reported to us because a married brother came to pick her up and they were in our flat for 10 minutes alone. God knows what the JW snooper thought they were up to.
Elders call on sisters in pairs to ensure that they are not led astray.
It is all about how things appear not what may actually have happened. So if someone of the opposite sex were to take ill and ask to sleep on the sofa or in the spare room and you agreed you could both be before a JC because from the outside people could assume you commited fornication.
Hope this helps if you could be more specificabout what confused you would try to help.