Apocalyptic Cults Always Predict the " Last Days "-Why it's a Total Farce (page 3)

The Oracle

Chalam,

The account of Jesus appears to be just another story about yet another "son of God" who was born of a virgin on December 25th, died and was resurrected, travelled around with 12 disciples, and performed miracles.

There are too many other "Jesus" accounts in ancient history for it to be merely a coincidence.

Have you researched the history of the mythical character of Horus of ancient Egypt? Some people exagerrate the similarities, but when you look at the account objectively it does seem very suspicious.

The Oracle

flipper

CHALAM- Interseting Bible verse you quote. True Isahiah's prophecy about Jesus may have come true. But lots of psychics are right on over the years about predictions as well. Some are not. But some of the Bible's prophecies have never come true either. One thing I could never understand is HOW the witnesses and WT society called all the beasts of Daniel and Revelation - governments over the centuries. Makes no sense to me. Anybody could have called and put a title on any of those crazy a$$ beasts in those books and had a take on what they represented.Doesn't make it accurate though. It's all subjective opinion.

ORACLE - My point precisely what you are saying. Very true that many " Jesus's " have appeared in ancient Egypt and other countries over the centuries claiming to be " the Christ ". Hell - Even Charles Manson thought HE was Jesus Christ - but it didn't make it so. Good points you make

Chalam

Hi The Oracle,

There are too many other "Jesus" accounts in ancient history for it to be merely a coincidence.

I cannot say I am so sure. There are so many specifics about Jesus' birth, the place, the nature etc, and similarly his life and his death in the OT that there cannot be too many claimants to be Jesus, I'd say there is only one.

Have you researched the history of the mythical character of Horus of ancient Egypt? Some people exagerrate the similarities, but when you look at the account objectively it does seem very suspicious.

I am not schooled in the Horus of Egypt but in response I'd say that the enemy has put out plenty of smoke screens and red herrings in his diversionary tactics throughout history, B.C. and particularly A.D. to put people off the trail of Jesus.

Hi Flipper,

CHALAM- Interseting Bible verse you quote. True Isahiah's prophecy about Jesus may have come true. But lots of psychics are right on over the years about predictions as well. Some are not. But some of the Bible's prophecies have never come true either. One thing I could never understand is HOW the witnesses and WT society called all the beasts of Daniel and Revelation - governments over the centuries. Makes no sense to me. Anybody could have called and put a title on any of those crazy a$$ beasts in those books and had a take on what they represented.Doesn't make it accurate though. It's all subjective opinion.

The nature of predictions of science is to do with scientific laws and theory. However, prophecy is to do with the revealed knowledge of God. Often there are some very specific details which defy any logic but can only be explained with foreknowledge of future events. For sure, there is much in the vehicle of much prophecy i.e. dreams and visions which is allegorical (beasts and whores included) but there is plenty which is literal. My JW friend passes huge portions of the bible off as "not literal" and "purely parabolical", prophecies, words of Jesus and such to the point where little is literally truth.

With regard to the beast and the horns, have a look at the Treaties of Rome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and see how that correlates. Also, the vision explained in Daniel 2. I believe along with many others that the EU is the revived Rome and the last kingdom on earth before Christ returns to set up His kingdom without end.

All the best,

Stephen

Homerovah the Almighty

The cults such as the JWS prey on the weak, ignorant and the venerable ones in society to establish power for themselves

and to take control over people's lives.

Complacent fear is the protagonist that they mostly apply to anyone who deems interested in them and

has the effect of locking them in also.

Before you know it individuals are out trying to cull others to the cult to gain praise and acceptance and establish

self worth within their newly structured family of followers.

Previous personal identities are therefore shattered and a new one is established instituted by the cult.

There also seems to be the prevalence that all that is not connected to the cult in one way or the other is deemed evil

and dangerous and getting involved with these outside associations is oppressively damaging to ones spirituality and therefore life.

Sound familiar ?

badboy

chellechelle

THE ORACLE- "The account of Jesus appears to be just another story about yet another "son of God" who was born of a virgin on December 25th, died and was resurrected, travelled around with 12 disciples, and performed miracles.

There are too many other "Jesus" accounts in ancient history for it to be merely a coincidence.

Have you researched the history of the mythical character of Horus of ancient Egypt? Some people exagerrate the similarities, but when you look at the account objectively it does seem very suspicious"

zeitgeist baby!!.... have you seen the movie?

this is how the story goes, jesus is the son of gad and died on the cross to be resurrected three days later. explanation= jesus is not the son of god but rather the sun god. he died on the cross as the son moved to reside in the middle of the southern crux constellation, then three days later moved back up to its original position seemigly being ressurected as it were. this happens ofcourse, around dec 25....

CHALAM- "The nature of predictions of science is to do with scientific laws and theory. However, prophecy is to do with the revealed knowledge of God. Often there are some very specific details which defy any logic but can only be explained with foreknowledge of future events. For sure, there is much in the vehicle of much prophecy i.e. dreams and visions which is allegorical (beasts and whores included) but there is plenty which is literal. My JW friend passes huge portions of the bible off as "not literal" and "purely parabolical", prophecies, words of Jesus and such to the point where little is literally truth.

With regard to the beast and the horns, have a look at the Treaties of Rome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and see how that correlates. Also, the vision explained in Daniel 2. I believe along with many others that the EU is the revived Rome and the last kingdom on earth before Christ returns to set up His kingdom without end"

first of all... history repeats itself. just because it is written in the bible and something similar happened in present times does not mean that it is a prophecy. The information presented is being compared because as i said earlier history repeats itself and it makes sense that something that happened in those days may happen today just on a larger scale.

or if you want a laugh, my boyfriend and i talk aboutthe fact that, the writer of revelation was stuck on an island eating god knows what (mushrooms) for days.. how about thinking that these things have no relevence what so ever and are purely a drug trip written down haha

as for flippers original post i will have to answer tomorrow when my brain is working since it took me about half an hour to write it before with my stuoid adhd and somehow the computer auto deleted it before it was posted.

flipper

Very interesting replies ! Thanks.

CHALAM- You asked if I've looked at " Treaties of Rome " to verify that governments are represented as " beasts ". No I haven't , I will. Have you seen Zeitgeist the documentary CHELLECHELLE is talking about ? It clarifies in detail that many different countries - Egypt included had an imaginary " God " or figure that corresponded exactly with many of the prophecies about Jesus. So essentially- every nation wanted some kind of a savior over the centuries - it's called " desperation ".

Your comment that , " Often there are some very specific details (WHICH DEFY ANY LOGIC ) but can only be explained with foreknowledge of future events . " Well- last time I checked Jehovah's Witnesses had very specific details ( WHICH DEFY ANY LOGIC ) claiming that " this generation would not pass away before all these things occured, then the end will come . " The generation has gone 95 years now . The dictionary states generations only last 30 to 40 years maximum. I think that throws the " foreknowledge of future events " theory out the window. It's invalid.

HOMEROVAH the ALMIGHTY- Very true what you say. Jehovah's Witnesses as well as all mind control cults do try to prey on the weak and unsuspecting by controlling them through fear that some big Armageddon is going to happen, or the " last days " is going to happen . And WHY do cults do this to people by scaring them ? Just for this very reason - TO CONTROL THEM. If they can keep cult members so scared about the future - they can control how the cult members live their lives today in the here and now. For the service to the cult's interests not the individual's.

CHELLECHELLE- Very true what you say. Zeitgeist is a great documentary. Liked it a lot ! History does repeat itself like you said, so I think that John and the other Bible " prophets " were doing mushrooms or acid when they had visions of " beasts " ! For modern day people to say that it represents governments existing in " God's last days " is really a stretch

out4good3

I look forward to the time when the Flying Spaghetti Monster will return to earth and reward all of the Pirates (and everyone dressed like a pirate) with eternal life in paradise with a Beer Volcano and Stripper Factory.

me too!!!!

flipper

OUT4GOOD3- I hear people talking about this " Flying spaghetti Monster " . I checked the website once , interesting. But I'm not a big fan of spaghetti - so I don't think it would " fly " with me. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

Apocalyptic Cults Always Predict the " Last Days "-Why it's a Total Farce

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