Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

by Alpaca 64 Replies latest jw friends

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    I have avoided reading this thread until now. I knew it would be difficult to read. Feelings it brings up are quite personal.

    There are no doubt so many stories just like the ones we read on this thread.

    Having two family members that have committed suicide, it hurts so badly that ones life becomes without any hope to them.

    People that we love and care for so deeply.

    While I realize mental illness is a huge factor with suicide,

    even among "worldy" people not measuring up is a big factor.

    But for a religion to have so many people feel that they do not measure up, and many never commit suicide,

    it's criminal what the organization is doing. It should be a haven and comfort for people to go to not a place to feel like you don't measure up.

    I sat here reading and thought with this thread alone, should be enough for the media to be interested and involved

    in investigating what this religion does to people. And no telling how many stories are out there.

    I have many JW friends that have been unsucessful with suicide attempts, one just last year.

    One for a break up in his marriage, falsely accused for various things by his wife and then trying to defend himself to the elders.

    A sister, huband an elder, had four children.........none of them came in the truth, two joined the military, she cared for her grandkids while her children were deployed. One son was in prison for something. She said many times when she was driving, she wanted to drive, full speed into a wall or railings on bridges. She just wanted to be dead.

    Another sister, her husband left the truth, and the inner turmoil, for years, she went through, nearly drove her to suicide.

    I can't fully blame my daughters two drug overdoses on the organization, but as part of her getting better, was to keep her from the meetings, as the talk of death and doom and gloom for the future, Armeggedon coming any time had a dramatic effect on her outlook, her desire to live.

    This is a very sad thread,

    purps

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    (((purps)))

    Most telephone books have a list of crisis lines for people to call. Often there is a number for a group to help those who are depressed and you yoursmight also find a Suicide Action line. If you or someone you know is contemplating suicde please CALL. The information can save a life - maybe

  • BonaFide
  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    I somehow missed this thread, and I want to post.

    When I was growing up a Witness, I remember how suicides were viewed as "murder." Remember that? An elder in my area committed suicide, and there was no KH funeral.

    In my missionary assignment, I remember two suicides. One was a young teenage brother, 17 years old. I didn't hear why he committed suicide, but they did give a talk at the KH.

    Then there was a good friend of mine. He would accompany me in service sometimes as I served congregations. He took a trip to the United States, for business I heard. He died at an airport. The news report said he had jumped off an airport bridge. I couldn't believe it. I do remember he had some problems with depression, but it was my fault that I didn't think it was that serious. I wish I could put his name on here, he was a good guy.

    I gave his funeral talk at a funeral home. I still have his photo on my wall at home.

    For those who think there are some good things about being a Witness, read this thread from time to time. It is an evil cult, and just because some of us may joke from time to time doesn't mean we don't hate how lives are ruined every day by the Watchtower. If there was a way to bring it crashing down, a lot of us on here would do it.

    BF

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    I know of one man who had a JW brother that committed suicide.

    His life took a downard turn after seeing a C.O. one day at a mall hanging out with a girl (as if they were in a relationship). He reported to the higher ups and they came down on him hard for "not waiting on Jehovah". For some reason he simply would not keep quite about what he saw. Organization leaders and local Elders made his life a living hell. From what I understand, he was quoted as saying that he felt like Uzza reaching out to steady the ark. He wish he had not started what he did.

    I can't remember the rest of the story, but know that his life started to spiral out of control after this episode. He eventually committed suicide.

    His brother is still very bitter towards the organization. You really can't blame him.

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  • Jadeen
    Jadeen

    A few years ago I talked with an ex-JW who had started a support group for gay witnesses. He said that the suicide rate was quite high for them.

  • reniaa
    reniaa

    Suicide is a sad fact of life while I simpathise with all the stories on this thread, I know that it is a worldwide issue. Do people who have had no contact with witnesses commit suicide? yes. Do people in other religions of every type commit suicide? yes. Do people brought up without any religion per se commit suicide? Yes

    The best advice anyone can give is that if you have suicidal thoughts please go and seek medical help straight away!

    someone I knew did and found it was a chemical imbalance that caused her the emotional feelings that had triggered the suicidal thoughts. The right medication addressed this and although she will always be on it now the suicidal thoughts have gone away. sometimes only counciling is needed especially in teens that have a high rate of suicide risk from emotional issues.

    Reniaa

  • Mary
    Mary

    It's almost 1:30 in the morning in England Reniaa......Gee, how does a mother of two kids---one of them handicapped, manage to spend all the hours you do on this forum???

  • gubberningbody
    gubberningbody

    Yes.

    Four people that I know.

    We had two in the last 18 months. Both young men.

    And both of them were pushed by that letter we got as elders and that other stupid article on pornography.

    I told one of them to just let it go. "So you saw a boob! I've seen them too."

    People laugh but this shit isn't funny when people kill themselves.

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