Changes to the Kingdom Interlinear

by PanzerZauberei 48 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  wifibandit

  De crvce libri tres ad sacram profanámque historiam vtiles. Vnà cum notis. by Justus Lipsius

  The woodcut that you see in the reference Bible is on PDF pg 15.

  
  

  PDF pg 20 in this version (better quality scan)
  
  
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  Crazyguy

  The key to this cross or stake issue is simply John 20:20-25 Thomas says nails not nail. If he was impaled on a stake it would be one nail.
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  Fisherman

  Regardless of what Lipsius believed, he showed someone crucified on a pole also. This illustrates that stauros does not have to mean Christendom's cross.

  King James Bible
  And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.-Numbers 21:9
  

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  New International Version
  Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,-John-3:14
  

  
  
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  Splash

  The society is obsessed with numbers. Numbers mean things.

  Got less than 10 hours ministry? Spiritually weak.

  Got 20 million attending the memorial? Proves it's Gods organisation.

  2% increase per year? The small one is becoming a nation.

  So how about this one: A quarter of the earth's population say Jesus died on a cross? The stake teaching is false.

  This logic is unassailable, the conclusions irrefutable. Maybe 😀
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  millie210

  This has been such a great read!

  So nice to see posters take on an opposing view with intellect and wit.
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  Splash

  OK, now a serious question.

  Mt 27:38 says "Then two robbers were put on stakes alongside him, one on his right and one on his left"

  Picture that scene in your mind. How would it look?

  Now read John 19:32-33 "The soldiers came and broke the legs of the first man and those of the other man who was on a stake alongside him. But on coming to Jesus, they saw that he was already dead, so they did not break his legs."

  Question. If Jesus was in the middle, why does it say the two other wrongdoers were alongside each other, and that the soldiers 'came' to Jesus last?
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  millie210

  k..I'll give it a go!

  The scripture mentions soldiers (plural) so maybe a soldier approached from each side and broke the legs of the men and when they met in the middle (Jesus) they observed him to be already dead?

  I honestly dont know.....

  is this something you are posing as a riddle - is there an answer? I wanna know!
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  Splash

  Next time you see a jw, ask them to see what they say 😉
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  Crazyguy

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  John 20:25New International Version (NIV)

  25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”

  But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”