Jehovah created Jesus? Jesus is "a god" and "mighty god"? Consider these...

by Chalam 58 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • possible-san
    possible-san

    It is the true Trinity doctrine that Jesus is not Jehovah.

    Just the Trinitarians who teach that "Jesus is Jehovah" are teaching everybody the strawman.
    It is that false Trinity doctrine (strawman, Jesus is Jehovah) that the Watch Tower society is attacking.

    But the Watch Tower doctrine that Jehovah is "the Father" is correct.

    possible
    http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    @ yesidid - but when his followers refused to get the point, he became increasingly firm with them.

    Reniaa isn't just someone who's misled. She's on here actively promoting her own idealologies, including that Jesus us just like a cult leader and using terms like "Jesus worshippers" as a pejorative.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    "But the Watch Tower doctrine that Jehovah is "the Father" is correct."

    Solid, scriptural proof please, bearing in mind Isaiah 9:6.

  • possible-san
    possible-san

    passwordprotected,

    Usually, you write people's name after the mark "@."
    When you write to me, what is the reason for not doing so?

    Solid, scriptural proof please, bearing in mind Isaiah 9:6.

    If you are an ex-Jehovah's Witness, even if I do not explain to you, you should know it.

    possible
    http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    @ possible-san - "If you are an ex-Jehovah's Witness, even if I do not explain to you, you should know it"

    Sorry, I'm a bit lost. You said "But the Watch Tower doctrine that Jehovah is "the Father" is correct." How should I know that the WT teaching is correct if I'm an ex-JW. I wouldn't have left I thought they were correct in their teachings!

  • possible-san
    possible-san

    passwordprotected,

    Were you influenced by the false Trinity doctrine, and forgotten the Scriptures you learned when you were a JW?
    (Also in the Trinity doctrine, Jehovah is "the Father." And Jesus is not Jehovah.)

    possible
    http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    @ possible-san - I prefer to base my beliefs on scripture and if I'm wrong in my beliefs I prefer to be won over by scripture.

  • possible-san
    possible-san

    passwordprotected,

    In my usual belief, the Scriptures is not teaching the doctrine.
    I have said in this forum several times, "I interpret the Scriptures entirely symbolically and figuratively."
    So, in fact, your belief cannot be supported with the Scriptures.

    But, for you, I state in the viewpoint which is different from my usual belief.

    All the followings are quotations from the NWT.
    (Although it is quotation from the Old Testament, Jesus Christ is explaining those Scriptures.)

    “The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:
    “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.””
    PSALM 110:1http://www.watchtower.org/e/bible/ps/chapter_110.htm#bk1


    “The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me,
    for the reason that Jehovah has anointed me to tell good news to the meek ones.
    He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
    to proclaim liberty to those taken captive and the wide opening [of the eyes] even to the prisoners;”
    ISAIAH 61:1http://www.watchtower.org/e/bible/isa/chapter_061.htm#bk1

    possible
    http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    @ possible - "I have said in this forum several times, "I interpret the Scriptures entirely symbolically and figuratively." So, in fact, your belief cannot be supported with the Scriptures."

    Sorry, that doesn't add up. You quote from two Old Testament scriptures that do not disprove Jesus is God. Isa 9:6 "Mighty God", John 20:28 "My God". Both in reference to Jesus, one from each Testament.

  • possible-san
    possible-san

    passwordprotected,

    You are frantic in refuting my post, and do not enough take my comment into consideration.

    Now (present), I quit from my usual belief, and have stated from a viewpoint of the Trinity.

    "Isa 9:6" and "John 20:28"?
    So what?
    From that viewpoint (Trinity), that "Jesus is God" (not "a god") is natural.

    possible
    http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/

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