e and e....is that you?
Help on becoming a Jehovahs Witness
by tpadgett 86 Replies latest jw friends
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So, somebody from Vancouver WA go onto her job ad and offer her a job that a 17-year-old might take if they weren't a JW. Working in a blood bank, selling cigarettes, working in a church, etc. I guess the more detail about Vancouver, the more convincing it will be (specific business names, addresses, etc).
She may answer back and spill the beans that she can't take the job because she's a JW and blah, blah, blah.
Why would she only be unavailable Tue & Thu through June? If it's her meeting and study nights, why only until June?
And why is a 17-year old taking classes at night? I know it's possible, but it doesn't seem common to me.
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ziddina
Hmmm. I'm not that familiar with 'trolls' so I normally would bow to the wisdom of heads older and wiser than mine - in relation to time spent on this board... Oh, Lookit! a troll!!
Sorry - having way too much fun with my new Smileys!! Anyway, I decided to email her something, on the off chance that she was seriously interested... Seems that the phrase, "Is the book a negative or postive outlook on the religion?" is something that very likely came from the "one-foot-in, one-foot-out" spiritually-weak hypocritical JW boyfriend. At any rate, I sent her the following email - if she has any sense, she'll see the pattern...:
(my email:) "Hello, Tiffani! Welcome to the Jehovahs-Witness.net board! I want to apologize for some of the comments; many people have had bad experiences with this religion, and are harboring some bitterness.
However, I believe that you truly want to know about the religion. Here is their official website: http://www.watchtower.org/
There is a search engine onsite, although once you've selected an article you must make the same search request again to access the rest of the articles on the subject - the "back" button doesn't work on that site, for some reason...
I would recommend that you start out with subjects that may be controversial... since those would be the subjects that could directly - and possibly adversely - affect your life. So, when you go to the official Jehovah's Witness website, as listed above... I would suggest that you input these subjects into the search engine, and read - and consider - very carefully - what this religion's edicts are concerning these issues...
Here are some articles from the official website - I've chosen to group them by subject:
Jehovah's Witnesses are not to be involved in making the world a better place:
"The Key to a Happy World" Quote from article: " 'I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.' History has proved that humans do not have the capacity to rule successfully without their Creator. Jesus fully concurred. Independence from God was anathema to him.... Recall, though, that in Eden our original parents submitted to the will of a wicked spirit creature who spoke through a visible serpent. This brings us to a second reason why Jesus kept out of politics.... Satan, the Bible tells us, offered Jesus "all the kingdoms of the world and their glory" in exchange for one act of worship.... Could Satan actually make such a grandiose offer? Yes, for Jesus himself called the Devil "the ruler of the world," and the apostle Paul described him as "the god of this system of things."
In other words, Satan rules the whole world right now, and therefore no Jehovah's Witness may participate in any activity that is supposed to better the existing world.
Here are some more articles along those lines - again, these are directly from the official Watchtower (the name of the corporation that is the headquarters for Jehovah's Witnesses) website:
Identifying the Wild Beast and Its Mark http://www.watchtower.org/e/20040401/article_02.htm
Who Really Rules the World? http://www.watchtower.org/e/t22/article_01.htm
Where Is This World Headed? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200704/article_01.htm
Today's Cruel World - Will Cruelty Ever End? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20070415/article_01.htm
Has Evil Won? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030115/article_02.htm
Why Wickedness Continues http://www.watchtower.org/e/20070915/article_02.htm
Speaking of the Devil, the Jehovah's Witnesses (governed by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) believe that he is a real being and very active in human affairs. They have a fear/fascination with Satan and the concept of evil personified, as can be seen from the following articles: :
Is There a Devil? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20010901/article_01.htm
The Devil--More Than Just Superstition http://www.watchtower.org/e/20010901/article_02.htmThe Source of Evil Exposed! http://www.watchtower.org/e/20070601/article_02.htm
Who Is the Devil? http://www.watchtower.org/e/rq/article_04.htm
How Real Is the Devil to You? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20051115/article_02.htm
Good Surrounded by Evil http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060101/article_01.htm
How Good Will Conquer Evil http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060101/article_02.htm
Are Evil Forces at Work? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20021015/article_01.htm
Satan - myth or sinister reality? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20021015/article_02.htm
Segueing directly into the next subject, Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to have anything to do with superstitions, the occult, and many holidays:
Life Under the Control of Superstition http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020801/article_01.htm
Do Superstitions Control Your Life? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020801/article_02.htm
Young People Ask... Dabbling in the Occult--What's the Harm? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020122a/article_01.htm
Is Hypnotism for Christians? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030708a/article_01.htm
Incense Burning http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030601/article_01.htm
Yoga--Just an Exercise or Something More? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020801a/article_01.htm
Christmas Customs--Are They Christian? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20001215/article_01.htm
Has Christmas Lost Christ? http://www.watchtower.org/e/19981215/article_01.htm
Should the Zodiac Influence Your Life? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20001108a/article_01.htm
Is Astrology the Key to Your Future? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050808/article_01.htm
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, functioning as Jehovah's Witnesses, issues information regarding Jehovah's Witnesses and how they live their lives. Sometimes this includes controlling the minutia:
Are Game Players at Risk http://www.watchtower.org/e/20021222/article_02.htm
The Changing World of Electronic Games http://www.watchtower.org/e/20021222/article_01.htm
Should I Play Electronic Games? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200801b/article_01.htm
Chat Rooms How Can I Avoid the Dangers? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20051022/article_01.htm
TV The Subtle Instructor http://www.watchtower.org/e/200610/article_02.htm
TV A Thief of Time? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200610/article_01.htm
Do I Need a Mobile Phone? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20021022/article_01.htm
Beware of Customs That Displease God http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050101a/article_01.htm
A Balanced View of Fashion http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030908/article_03.htm
The Dark Side of Glamour http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030908/article_02.htm
Do You Worry About Your Hair? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020808a/article_01.htm
Should I Get a Tattoo? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030922a/article_01.htm
Which Movies Will You See? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050508/article_01.htm
Music That Pleases God http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000601/article_01.htm
Music God s Gift to the Heart http://www.watchtower.org/e/200805b/article_01.htm
Aaaand, I'm being a brat here, but I think it's fitting to end this section with this particular article...:
Why So Many Rules? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200612a/article_01.htm
Which seems to sum it up....
Other life-style issues have far graver consequences - if you are caught smoking after becoming a baptised Jehovah's Witness, you will be disfellowshipped for it... There are other issues besides smoking, too:
A World Hooked on Smoking http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000322/article_01.htm
Cigarettes--Do You Reject Them http://www.watchtower.org/e/19961022/article_01.htm
Why Quit Smoking http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000322/article_02.htm
Your Life-Style--What Are the Risks? http://www.watchtower.org/e/19990708/article_01.htm
You Can Remain Chaste in an Immoral World http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000715/article_01.htm
Can Internet Dating Really Be Dangerous http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050522a/article_01.htm
What's Wrong With Dating Secretly? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200706a/article_01.htm
What if I m Invited to Hook Up ? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200703b/article_01.htm
Why Am I Drawn to the Wrong People? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050722a/article_01.htm
How Can I Avoid Getting Involved With the Wrong People? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050822/article_01.htm
Teen Pregnancy--A Global Tragedy http://www.watchtower.org/e/20041008/article_02.htm
Teen Pregnancy--Help and Protection for Young Ones http://www.watchtower.org/e/20041008/article_04.htm
The Option of Divorce http://www.watchtower.org/e/19990422a/article_03.htm
Young People and Drugs http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030408/article_01.htm
Gambling--A Global Fascination http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020722/article_01.htm
How to Cultivate a Balanced View of Work http://www.watchtower.org/e/20030201/article_02.htm
How Can I Conquer This Habit? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200611a/article_01.htm
How Important Is Cleanliness? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020201/article_01.htm
Cleanliness - What Does It Really Mean? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020201/article_02.htm
(Oddly enough, alcoholic consumption doesn't earn nearly the censure that cigarette smoking does... Hence I put this article here:)
Is It Wrong to Drink Alcoholic Beverages? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200612b/article_01.htm
Then there's the fundamentalistic viewpoint of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society/Jehovah's Witnesses towards certain freedoms and peoples with non-conservative viewpoints...:
Homosexuality How Can I Avoid It? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200702b/article_01.htm
Does God Approve of Same-Sex Marriage? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050408a/article_01.htm
What Does Headship in Marriage Really Mean? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200801c/article_01.htm
Can Marriage Withstand the Storm? http://www.watchtower.org/e/200607/article_01.htm
The Family--An Emergency Case! http://www.watchtower.org/e/19980401/article_01.htm
Right and Wrong How Should You Decide? http://www.watchtower.org/e/20041201/article_02.htm
Freedom of Speech--Is It Being Abused? http://www.watchtower.org/e/19960722/article_02.htm
Freedom of Speech in the Home--Is It a Ticking Time Bomb? http://www.watchtower.org/e/19960722/article_03.htm
Well, Tiffani, hope this helps... You've got a lot of reading ahead of you... Remember, all this comes from the OFFICIAL Jehovah's Witness website - no 'negative' views of the religion here! Best of Results to you! Zid
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is very interested in even the most intimate aspects of Jehovah's Witnesses' lives...: The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is very interested in even the most intimate aspects of Jehovah's Witnesses' lives ...:
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purplesofa
Zid,
Hope you sent that email anonymously.
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ziddina
No, I didn't. I've got a pretty good spam filter on my system, but as I said earlier, I'm not experienced with trolls - please enlighten me!! Zid
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Mary
A&W said: e and e....is that you?
LMAO.........Ya.....that thought crossed my mind too.
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OUTLAW
It looks like she got a lot more negative comments on the other board.....Thats probably what she was looking for..Thats why she did`nt stay on JWN very long..............................OUTLAW
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davegod
Well, instead of helping your fellow man. You have passed on the opportunity to "witness" to this person and made yourself feel empowered. Sad, really.
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jamiebowers
She was retired from JWS.
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OUTLAW
We did`t show enough negativity towards JW`s,so she moved on to where she could Rant...........She was`nt the least bit interested in looking for any sort of help..................................OUTLAW