Do I understand the JW version of resurrection???

insearchoftruth

Hello, my wife is on again, off again studying with the JWs. I have done a lot of reading and research into the WTS and want to see if I understand this correctly.

OK, the WTS believes that Jesus 'returned invisibly' in 1914 and threw Satan out to the earth, and in 1975, wait 1994, soon, very soon, we are in the last days of the last days, armageddon will take place. When this happens, faithful JWs will either go to heaven, if of the anointed remnant or remain living on an earth which they will make a paradise over the next 1000 years. Anyone living at the time of the start of armageddon who is not a JW will be killed off in the battle and have no hope of a resurrection during the 1000 years.

People who were not JWs but died prior to armageddon will be recreated, well they say resurrected, where a perfect replica of their body will have a download of their memories installed in it, and these people will have a chance to prove themselves during the 1000 years to see if they too will have the chance to live forever on paradise earth. If they goof this up, they will be destroyed forever.....no hellfire or anything like that...

So those who are JWs in good standing and alive at armegeddon, their reward is cleaning up the aftermath of the big A, those who did not become a JW and died prior to armageddon, they will have a chance at a recreation, I mean resurrection sometime during the millenium years and a chance to prove themselves, but they don't have to work the full 1000 years to restore the earth, the JWs get to do that for them...and then those who are not JWs but are alive at the big A, they had already been destroyed, no hell, and they just will not get recreated by Jah and have their memories downloaded......

So I guess the short of it.......become a JW, live life with all the manmade restrictions, serve a governing body and really have no fun, ........don't become a JW, the big A comes along and you are still alive, be destroyed and have no memory of anything at all, or........don't become a JW, die prior to the big A, let the JWs start to make the earth a paradise and then get recreated sometime and try to prove oneself, if one fails, just get destroyed again. So to me, if one really wants to have an opportunity to live forever on paradise earth, if one lives a fairly good life (not too bad of a person), ones only risk of not becoming "one of Jehovah's witnesses" would be if you happen to still be alive at armageddon...which from what I have read is being communicated at this years convention is right around the corner.....

Seems all too strange to me....do I somewhat understand the basics of their teachings.....

Psychotic Parrot

That's what they believe at the moment yes, come back here in a couple of years to find out what they believe then.

VIII

Pretty much sums it up.

In talking to some of my aunts recently (JWs), they are of the opinion that some dead relatives who knew of and rejected the JWs will get resurrected because, well, they were *nice* and Jehovah can read their hearts.

But, I said, they knew of and rejected the JWs, aren't they automatically put on the *Do not Resurrect* list Jehovah has somewhere in the sky? They insisted that since these particular relatives were *such kindly souls* they are sure Jehovah will resurrect them and they (the aunts) are so looking forward to seeing them in the New System.

Trying to reason with people who are totally brainwashed is impossible.

These same aunts are also convinced that their ex-husbands, and a few other people they deemed *evil* will be destroyed at Armageddon. I said "but they are still in good standing in the congregation and have not been DFd". They responded "Jehovah knows they are evil and can read their heart. I know they will die. Jehovah will destroy them with the rest of the evil doers." This is said very casually-as if killing and destroying billions of people is an everyday occurance.

I get the feeling that this is the majority.

Vachi 8 He Is

Here's what I see: Striving to be a dub requires a black and white view of the world. Since "the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one", if one was to look at something jehovah (and by jehovah I mean the efforts of the governing body/WTBTS) condemns and say "X video game, X movie, X music, or X tv show is not THAT bad" the first thing a dub would say is (all together now) "That's how satan wants you to think or feel." So you're brought into this thinking that everything out there that's not dub is part of grand diabolical scheme just so satan can take you with him when he goes. So you take that cardboard box.....shine it up real nice......turn that sombitch sideways and shove it right around your brainwashed ass. Meanwhile, you aren't doing even the most basic or normal recreational activities that doesn't involve your dub support system or thinking WWJD. Congratulations, the society has struck again. You aren't living your life in THIS world due to putting stock in the next world. And what do you get for your efforts in this new world, provided you even MAKE it to this new world? "Not everyone saying to me Lord, Lord will......" Well, the internet, games, movies, music and tv shows will all be extremely different places. And that's provided we even care to delve into such creations. Yes we supposedly will have 100% of our brain power being that we are perfect, although it seems even perfection isn't without flaws (Eve anyone?), but what will we be able to create? What will we remember but let stay in the past because of it potentially being a threat to the new system? They say we won't want to sin because everything on earth will know of jehovah, but it didn't go that way for Eve. So what happened? Anyway, you've just won an all expense paid trip to living forever, petting animals, building houses, filling the Earth with more like minded undiversified people, witnessing the resurrection of people whom you're to make like minded, making jehovah happy and........hmmm.........the story tends to end here. They always get right here and this imaginatory thought train comes to a screeching halt. Is that all I get for being boxed up? See, by only focusing on war, greed, crime, violence, hunger and famine when you turn on the news or read a newspaper, or have an initial interest in a movie, game, tv show or relationship with people regardless of the level your mind automatically retains the info that justifies your constructed belief system where there is something horribly wrong with the world. Oh and BTW, after 1000 years of this ParadOSe jehovah is gonna let satan out to play again? No thanks. Give me my "falsified happiness" now, continue lying to yourself jehovah thinking you're giving satan an answer for his "man won't serve you" debate, when all you're really doing is offing the people who DECIDED not to, which is like someone saying "I'm so hot, I can get ANYBODY up in this club" and when they don't respond to you, you write them off as being gay/les or in the gay/les case, write them of as being straight. (No letters please, just an example :) ) "Not that there's anything wrong with that...." Now I ask, if god is going to whack the people who didn't comply how is there a difference between offing Adam & Eve and starting over or offing billions of people and starting over? In fact the only real difference is the amount of time spent between the two events and the number of people killed. Keep your paradise, at least this way, I would have known some happiness before being robotisized.

insearchoftruth

"That's how satan wants you to think or feel."

Sure sums up a lot of the thoughts.....I never thought of it that way!!!! I appreciate your responses...any one else.

I guess if one is not a dub, the whole key to survival is then the timing of armegeddon?!

insearchoftruth

Any other thoughts....

Witness 007

In a "nutshell" Witnesses teach ressurected ones have no genitals...........no sex........better to stay dead!

Chalam

Hi,

Why try and understand what they teach at all? None of it makes any sense, especially when you read a bible!

Read these two chapeters and you will have a understanding of the resurrections far greater than any JW.

Revelation 20

1 Corinthians 15

All the best,

Stephen

BluesBrother

Insearchoftruth pretty much summed it up , although the WT has become a bit woolly over exactly who will and will not get a ress. , but the principles are as was said in the post.. This does allow for individuals to speculate, like VIII aunts..(If they do not like them then they are sure that they are to be slaughtered)

Somebody once put it on here " The unrighteous who are alive (at Armageddon) get death, but the unrighteous who are dead get life "

Go figure

Deputy Dog

insearchof

As you so clearly pointed out, the JWs don't understand the JW version of resurrection!

Do I understand the JW version of resurrection???

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