Further Punishements

by passwordprotected 103 Replies latest jw experiences

  • quietlyleaving
    quietlyleaving

    whether I felt alright about it isn't the issue but I would have been totally open about what I wanted them to babysit for. they are not paid babysitters but my family and deserve more respect than that and respect for their right to refuse too.

    Quietlyleaving said it more elequently than I did, his dad just made it clear it was a conscience issue and password should respect that.

    Reniaa

    thank you reniaa

    chalam made some thoughtful points too.

    Its hard not to be human - the things we criticise in JWs we practice ourselves on this board. At least we can glimpse a beyond...

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    There's an element coming through, as you'd expect with a Jehovah's Witness, that their beliefs, opinion, consciences are to be respected as the only ones that matter.

    Yes, it's my father's right to exercise his belief, conscience and opinion that he did not wish to babysit for my wife and I so that we good go to a concert where the theme was offering praise and honour to Christ.

    However, for JWs - as embodied by our local JW Reniaa - it's not acceptable for a non-JW to exercise their beliefs, opinion, conscience. So, if I were to forbid my parents to ever take any of my 3 children to a meeting in a Kingdom Hall (as I have done), that's deemed not acceptable by JWs and should lead to some sort of reciprocal action, such as not babysitting for us when we wish to attend Praise Gathering (did I mention how good and uplifting it was? My 9 year old son is walking on air this morning).

    I'm no expert, but that sounds like cause and effect.

    You see, Jehovah's Witnesses love cause and effect;

    • If you don't go out in the door-to-door ministry to a sufficient time quota, you don't get to be a mic handler
    • If you don't say the right things to the CoBE often enough, you won't be recommend for appointment
    • If you choose to leave the teachings of the Governing Body, you're cut off from your JW family and friends

    However, I believe that JWs should be aware that these principles will be flipped and pointed back at them;

    • If you choose to shun your family members it's unlikely they'll be drawn to return to the Kingdom Hall
    • If you choose to shun your sister in front of your daughter, your daughter will likely struggle to understand the "love" that's spoken of so often in the Kingdom Hall
    • If you put your Watch Tower conscience before spending time with your grandchildren, it's unlikely you'll be asked to babysit very often
  • reniaa
    reniaa

    Password you have complete rights as a parent to decide which religion your children are in and your grandparents should respect that, my nana asked my mums permission to take me to meetings and was granted it.

    I am sorry If I came accross as harsher than I meant, I worry sometimes that people on this site are so influenced by the constant barrage of anti-witness feeling on it, that it reflects how they treat JW relatives and spouses.

    If your parents were jews or muslims would you respect there right to living by their faith, has familiarity bred contempt in many of the cases I read about?

    Reniaa

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    If your parents were jews or muslims would you respect there right to living by their faith, has familiarity bred contempt in many of the cases I read about?

    I would absolutely respect their beliefs.

    However, I would absolutely expect similar respect in return.

  • quietlyleaving
    quietlyleaving

    I would absolutely respect their beliefs.

    However, I would absolutely expect similar respect in return.

    is this the golden rule?

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    I would absolutely respect their beliefs.

    However, I would absolutely expect similar respect in return.

    is this the golden rule?

    Maybe.....

  • sweet pea
    sweet pea

    Some beliefs don't deserve respect if they go against basic human rights or are just downright crazy.

    Did anyone respect the Nazi's beliefs that is alright to gas 6 million jews?????????

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Typical but not surprising.

    Glad you got to go and enjoy Password. Tickled that your 9 year old is still floating. I love praise music too. Such a wonderful contrast to the drivel the bOrg puts out.

    You handled it well.

    Josie

    P.S. It's so true that you reap what you sow. My kids aren't too impressed with the behaviors of my parents either.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    The real rub is that Gail was able to get a ticket for tonight's performance, so she doesn't miss out either.

  • besty
    besty

    Thanks Mark and Gail for one more blow struck for freedom against religious intolerance.

    The story inspired, or should I say directed?, me to write a brief blog post here called The Jehovah's Witness Bubble

    http://www.freeminds.org/blogs/from-ctrl-to-ctrl-alt-delete/index.php

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