Are You Paul or are you Saul?

by reniaa 347 Replies latest jw friends

  • reniaa
    reniaa

    they may not be dragging them from their homes but they do want the destruction of the Jehovah's witnesses and will use whatever they can to do so.

    They will even pretend to be witnesses excepting invites and food in peoples homes while secretly despising them.

    Reniaa

  • Midget-Sasquatch
    Midget-Sasquatch

    Oh Please,

    Nothing is that black and white. Even the supposedly reformed Paul, kept alot of garbage as the status quo. If he was sincere, and in part I think there's a good chance he was, its very likely he was just suffering from routine bouts of temporal lobe seizures with his visions.

    OTOH, he never spoke out against slavery. Instead, he used it as a model for his listeners to be submissive to.....guess who? Rome was one of them. He spoke a good game about living peacefully, again so as not to rock the status quo of the Roman controlled society of the time. A good argument can be made that Saul was a herodian of descent and so was self interested in neutralizing revolutionary movements like the zealaots and quite possibly the earliest Christian movements that were anti-establishment. Saul may have been duplicitous.

    We're not like Saul or Paul. We're just disseminating facts and letting people choose for themselves. Of course, if the side (ie the WTS) cannot stand up to the reality and their losing ranks they'll see us as a destructive enemy. The WTS' own dishonesty and coverups are its own undoing.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Reniaa says:

    they may not be dragging them from their homes but they do want the destruction of the Jehovah's witnesses and will use whatever they can to do so.

    They will even pretend to be witnesses excepting invites and food in peoples homes while secretly despising them.

    Reniaa

    My reply: not the destruction of JWs...rather the moving of their faith off of that of the leadership of a dangerous and destructive cult. Saul tried to destroy Christianity. Christianity is opposite JW leadership. No comparison there Reniaa.

  • reniaa
    reniaa

    Are you saying witnesses are demons now isaac?

    Matthew 10:25
    It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebub, how much more the members of his household!

    that might not help your point.

    you said being ex-Jws is not a religion yet call it a ministry, ministry is the work of a religion.

    Reniaa

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Sacolton made a very relevant point about false prophets. The Wt org is a false prophet- trying to expose it is not anywhere on the same plane as Saul's trying to destroy the Christian church.

  • reniaa
    reniaa

    Christianity has it's own leaders of Men how are they better?

    I'm assuming here it's only the Jw leaders you think are wrong?

    Reniaa

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Reniaa says:

    Are you saying witnesses are demons now isaac?

    Matthew 10:25
    It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebub, how much more the members of his household!

    that might not help your point.

    you said being ex-Jws is not a religion yet call it a ministry, ministry is the work of a religion.

    Reniaa

    My reply:

    Don't put words in my mouth Reniaa. My comment is right there in black and white. This was what I said "

    You are right the Wt is an imperfect tool. It has no use as any form of spiritual food...it contains doctrines of demons."

    I don't think i need to explain that. Up to lying again?

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Renia said:

    Christianity has it's own leaders of Men how are they better?

    I'm assuming here it's only the Jw leaders you think are wrong?

    Reniaa

    My reply:

    Logical fallacy- we are not talking of others...we are talking of JW specifically. They stand or fall on their own merit...not on if others are better.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    reniaa said:

    that might not help your point.

    you said being ex-Jws is not a religion yet call it a ministry, ministry is the work of a religion.

    Reniaa

    My reply:

    may or may not be a ministry....Some have a Christian ministry that includes helping exJWs...others appraoch it from nonChristian angles and it would be more of an outreach

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    False dichotomy. What about Raul?

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