I shrewdly avoid confrontations with you that inexperienced ones such as me have got suckered into.
Supreme Court Blood Case - WTS LOSES
by skeeter1 168 Replies latest watchtower medical
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Spike Tassel
As a reminder, Isaac, just call me Spike.
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isaacaustin
Good choice spike...inexperienced- and you obviously do not know what you are talking about in relation to blood transfusions and the WT ban....and you follow the leadership of the cult who are unable to do any sort of change to lift the ban due to backlash and legal issues that could result. So you are wise to keep your mouth shut on this. You have been roundly refuted on all points you have mentioned.
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Spike Tassel
I avoid the misuse of blood by my own health decisions
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isaacaustin
spike tassal, a blood transfusion is not a misuse of bllod- it is medicinal use that has saved many lives. You have not shown scripturally that it is a misue, or even touched on in the Bible. That is my rulebook. What is yours?
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straightshooter
Hopefully the US Supreme Court follows the lead of the Canadian Court. The WTBS policy on blood is sooo wishy washy.
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Spike Tassel
I would hope for the Supreme Court of Canada to go by its own Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as I mentioned earlier. The rule of the Bible (as correctly written, translated, understood, and applied) is what must prevail, and what will prevail. We all live in Jehovah's Universe after all. Jehovah's the One boss we don't want to mess with.
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isaacaustin
correct about the bible spike. And nowehre does the Bible address blood transfusions. So all of your other statements are relative to this are simply fluff and circular logic.
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TD
...whether against Japanese during WWII, the Aboriginals during the Residential school era...
What is the connection between the purely legal question of the competency of a minor and these past wrongs?
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compound complex
If what is related below can be documented beyond all doubt, would the declared "ulterior motives" of both Fred Franz and Clayton Woodworth bear directly upon the authenticity of so-called spirit-directed theology and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses?
"After the Judge's death, as World War II was ending and persecution against the Witnesses began declining, along with the attendant drop in news-media publicity, Hayden C. Covington told the author [of THE FOUR PRESIDENTS] that Fred Franz saw the prohibition against blood transfusions as a way to accomplish two things: to continue to publicize the religion, and to create an uproar in the community. This reaction would convince the membership they were being "persecuted" and "suffering for righteousness sake," a sure sign they were "in the truth."
According to Jerry Bergman, author of BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS: A HISTORY AND EVALUATION OF THE RELIGIOUS, BIBLICAL, AND MEDICAL OBJECTIONS, 1994, p. 5:
"The blood issue has brought witnesses more publicity than any other issue in the last twenty years."
"The ban on blood transfusions was an effort to solidify the Knorr administration." [Knorr initially objected to the weird scriptural interpretation justifying the abstaining from blood; he understood the scriptures to be in reference to animal blood only. Nevertheless, he went along with the ban.]
"Key Watchtower officers held a view of distrust toward the medical profession."
"Some high level Watchtower official naively reasoned that, if eating blood was wrong, blood transfusions were also wrong because they are 'intravenous' feeding as opposed to extravenous feeding, or normal eating."
While Rutherford swallowed some irrational rantings by Franz and Woodworth over the beginnings of the blood issue, he would not allow publication of FWF's "special knowledge" as "new light" in THE WATCHTOWER. The two mischief makers kept things stirred up and began convincing others, including Knorr. The author was told that now that "King Saul" [FWF] is dead, the leadership would like blood transfusions to be a matter of conscience and lay the blame for all the suffering at the feet of Franz and Woodworth.