Could we learn something from David? (page 2)

YoYoMama

Instead of saying stupidities, can't you just get the point?

OUTLAW

Hey Yo-yo,maybe your the one missing the point...OUTLAW

NameWithheld

I guess we're just stupid then, so enlighten us oh master of the bible, what should we learn from David?

I was walking on top of my house yesterday, and I happened to cast my gaze upon the neighbor's wife bathing. Instead of looking away I noticed how attractive she was. Perhaps I plant some crack in her husband's car and call the cops on him to get him out of the way. Now, hmmmmm, what would David do ....

Satanus

YO

Everyone knows very well what point you are trying to make. But you have a very bad case of tunnel vision. Try to see the bigger picture.

SS

YoYoMama

I'll just let the scriptures do the talking for me.

NameWithheld

Well then you can shut up and go away because we've already heard everything the 'scriptures' have to say.

dungbeetle

Ah...David, one of my favorite Bible Characters. Here's an essay I did and posted it on a Las Vegas discussion board with interesting results, now reprodunced here for your reading pleasure.....

You said: <<“King David, of Goliath fame. > >Our minister dressed up like David and went on to drive home that for all his > >greatness, he had perhaps an equal amount of evil. He followed Saul as King, > >and expanded his country's borders and brought prosperity and greatness to both > >Judea and Isreal. He also was an adulterer, and had Besheba's loyal husband > >killed in battle so that he could have her for himself. > > He basked in fortune, but was never really happy. Furthermore, his favorite > >son, Absolom, died, and he had to settle for Solomon for his successor, which > >was also good and bad. > >He went on to say that looking back, as we all do, he would have changed many > >things that he had done, but that it would be much better to make the correct > >changes while you are alive. > >Maybe the sermon had an effect on me such that I have more of an impulse to do > >good while alive, and not look back from the grave with regrets. > >(Sorry to all those unfortunate ones who struggled though this, especially > >subbie). > >

As long as we’re having Sunday school and bible study, here’s my ½ cent’s worth…

I Samuel chapter 18: And it came about that, …Jonothan’s very soul became bound up with the soul of David, and Jonathan began to love him as his own soul. And Jonathan and David proceeded to conclude a covenenant, because of his loving him as his own soul. Further, Jonathan stripped himself of the sleeveless coat that was on him and gave it to David, and also his garments, and even his sword and his bow and his belt. (I think Jonathan is very close to naked by now) Later on, Saul gave his daughter Michal to David to marry, and the account says verse 28: as for Michal, Saul’s daughter, she loved him. And again Saul felt still more fear because of David, and Saul came to be an enemy of David always. (With two of his children loving David, Saul by now no doubt was feling a little persecuted. Be careful who you invite home for dinner, folks!)

Later Chapter 20: Saul says to his son Jonothan; …“You son of a rebellious maid (typical, blame it on the mother) do I not well know you are choosing the son of Jesse to your own shame and to the shame of the secret parts of your mother? For all the days that the son of Jesse (Saul was so jealous of Jonathon’s love for David he wouldn’t even say David’s NAME) is alive on the ground, you and your kingship will not be firmly established. (translation; dump the boyfriend, or be disinherited). Jonathan answered in defense of David (wrong move!) and Saul hurled a spear at him. Jonathon arranged a meeting with David in secret to say goodbye. :…David…fell on his face to the earth and bowed three times; and they began kissing each other and weeping for each other, until David had done it the most.

Plowing through the events of David’s life, eventually Saul got tired of chasing David, went to war with Jonathan by his side, and they both were killed. David assumed the kingship and his first act was to assume care of Jonathan’s remaining family.

Whatever the true nature of the relationship between Jonathan and David (and I’m not going there), the facts are that after Jonathan’s death David was never the same man. Israel’s mightiest warrior, poet and composer began his kingship with civil war (between the houses of Saul and David) that eventually degenerated into war between David’s own son’s as David bcame more morose and withdrawn and took less and less of an interest and hand in the afairs of Israel and his own household. Shortly afterwards follwed the event regarding the census; then the affair with Bath-sheba ;and David had Uriah killed likely not to have Bathsheba as his own (she already was his) but to save her life and the life of their child (pregnant in the absence of her husband, she was an apparent adulteress and she would have ben put to death under Israelite law that Cactus jack referred to) his wife Michal became disgusted by all this and never bore David any children; David’s daughter is raped by David’s brother, which brother is then killed by another of David’s sons, and the list goes on and on.

A very sad and ancient story of a lost love. The Bible pops up in funny places, hey?

Happy holidays everyone

Dungbeetle

ashitaka

Metatron......Jesus, man, you're right on the money. You're a helluva poster.

ashi

Frenchy

The Lesson of 1 Sam 24

Saul had been anointed by Jehovah to be king. (1 Sam 10:24) This, in itself, is a fascinating point. Saul, although anointed, turned bad. Jehovah did not excuse his badness just because he was anointed. Lesson? Now, shortly after Saul was anointed as king he began to stray from the straight and narrow and soon Samuel is moved to say: “ You have acted like a fool.” (1 Sam 13:13 -JB) God did not strike Samuel down for his denouncing of this errant anointed one. Lesson? Later God expresses regret over having anointed Saul. (1 Sam 15:10) Lesson?

At the particular time of this episode David had not yet been fully commissioned (anointed, appointed, authorized) to take over the kingship of Israel. (Although David has already been anointed by Samuel at Jehovah’s command. 1 Sam chapter 16) According to David himself, Saul was the anointed one still. David showed great restraint in not overstepping his position even after his having been anointed for just that purpose. David was not quick to step up and assume the role of the anointed one, not as long as Saul remained alive and on the throne. Now this incident may be applied in various ways. One way is that David, having been anointed, was thus shirking his responsibility to take over the job given him by Jehovah. Saul had been rejected. (Samuel, Jehovah’s official representative walked away from Saul) David showed human fear. Samuel, on the other hand did not. Which was correct? Which of the two showed courage of conviction and willingness to obey divine instruction? Lesson?

Satanus

Yo

We have mostly just written about other aspects of david from the scriptures. As you can see, my post about human sacrifice was just a quote from the bible, the wt bible at that.

SS

Could we learn something from David?

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